Any other British Mums out there?

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    Are any of you British?  I’m from the UK and would love British book/resource/curriculum recommendations. Thanks!

    Hi, I am originally from Stratford on Avon, now living in the USA – so I don’t know how much help I can be, but welcome fellow Brit!  What sort of information do you want – I would love to help if I can.  Linda

    Inky
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    Thanks!  I’m mainly just looking for suggestions for British books / curriculum etc that you may have used and would recommend.  I’m also in the USA at present, and I’m interested in using the CM method with a British slant, so as to prepare my kids for transitioning back to the UK as and when. Nothing against the American books and curriculum at all – just wondered if there are equally good British ones out there that would help my kids retain as sense of Britishness in their education.

    Hello, can I ask how old your children are?  That would help with recommendations.  I have high school age now, but have always had CM type books in the home and have always made sure we took in our British heritage and roots, especially in History.   Once I know the age of your children then it will be easier to recommend.  Linda

    I should mention my daughter is having surgery tomorrow, so it may be the weekend before I can get back to you with recommendations, but I won’t forget – just that I will be offline tomorrow.  Linda

    Inky
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    Yes, of course, I should have said!  They’re both still at pre-school age so really I’m thinking ahead to next year and beyond.  At the moment I’m working on habits (using Laying Down the Rails) and time outdoors and am about to start reading the new SCM Early Years Handbook.  We do lots of reading together and some very gentle phonics (using the Jolly Songs CD from the Jolly Phonics range – which both my daughters sing along to in the car, and it means they get exposure to the British pronunciation!).  We borrow lots of books from the library which they love.  I’m also trying to build up a library of books from the UK and would be interested in any recommendations you have.  My eldest is at the stage of moving from picture books to something more stretching and absolutly LOVES the Milly Molly Mandy series.  She’s also completely hooked on the CD audio book version of the Jesus Storybook Bible. James Herriot’s Treasury of Inspirational Stories for Children is another favourite.

    I’ll be over in the UK next month so am planning on raiding the book shops.  I guess I’d love to know of any living history/literature/poetry books etc, maths curriculum, foreign language curriculum etc you may have used in reception/primary school.  I’m new to this as you can see and so am feeling quite daunted.  I imagine I’ll end up using a lot of the US books, but where possibile I want to, like you say, give then a flavour of our British heritage and roots, not confuse them with US spelling, and as far as possible equip them for moving back to the UK, since we’re only planning to be in the US for two or three years.

    I hope that helps and I really appreciate your interest.  I do hope your daughter’s surgery goes well.  I’m very interested that your children are now in high school.  Do they plan to go to University?  Would the CM education be recognised by British universities, do you know?  Would they need to sit A-levels?

    Many thanks

    Ruth

    Hello Ruth, Ah so you are at the beginning, lucky you.  I started after the girls had been in public school for a few years, if I could do it over, I would homeschool them from the beginning. I loved the Milly Molly Mandy series as a young girls and my daughters did as well. Some of the books I recommend may be for older children, but you can keep them in your memory bank for later on.  Sonya’s Laying Down the Rails is wonderful and her spelling course (British edition) would be a good buy as well, as it covers all the grades.  The James Herriot books are wonderful as read alouds, in fact we are lucky in Britain to have loads of brilliant literature to choose from.    Just So Stories by Rudyard Kipling, AA Milne books, Charles and Mary Lamb Tales from Shakespeare, E Nesbitt – The Best of Shakespeare, The Wouldbegoods, The Railway Children etc., Enid Blyton BobbseyTwins, Famous Five series etc.  We also liked Mrs Pepperpot books and The Borrowers. Charles Dickens wrote a couple of wonderful little books called  A Child’s History of England, and The Life of Our Lord (which he wrote for his own children).  I love those two books and my daughters did as well.  We aslo enjoyed all H.E. Marshall’s books when they were younger – her books taught them to love history even though certain things in her books were not accurate, however they make great reading, and it does encourage the interest.  You cannot go wrong with any books by Arabella Buckley, Fairyland of Science and Life and Her Children, also Arabella Buckley Parables of Nature.  The Country Diary of an Edwardian Lady is also beautiful for nature study.  Some of these are very old books reprinted for today, and I actually prefer the older authors, as they in general are far more wholesome, and far better written.  I read poetry to them from a very young age, simple poems to start with just so they could get used to it.  I have a large anthology of British poetry and I just picked simple poems from it and gradually increased the length of them as we went along. For music when they were little they enjoyed the audio Prokofiev: Peter and the Wolf / Saint-Saens: Carnival of the Animals, and the audio Britten: The Young Person’s Guide to the Orchestra, both very well done.  When the girls were older we read all of Dickens, Austen, The Bronte sisters, Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, Narnia and his apologetics.  We have read most of Shakespeare’s plays and a lot of British poetry.  Two books I highly recommend are Robert Lacey, Great Tales from English History, and The Story of St George, The Life and Legend of  England’s Patron Saint, by Anthony Cooney.  I cannot speak to foreign language, we do German as I speak it quite fluently, and I also use Tell Me More computer program for that.  I have friends in England who have liked the BBC Muzzy language lessons, but I have no personal experience of it.  Math is the same, I have only used US curriculum for math.  I know that because the US have so many homeschoolers there is more curriculum choice here most likely, however because your children will likely be back in England in a few years, you will need to be careful to make sure they are equipped for the transition.  They would certainly need to understand the British monetary system and government system when they are older.  For Language Arts, Lit, History and Geography –  reading, narrations, oral and written, dictation, timelines and mapping, artist and composer/poet study would be fine.  I have a lot of US books now, because we live here and it is easier to get.  However apart from high school US History and Government, I have taught them about the British Parliamentary system and we have used the Winston Churchill series History of the English Speaking People, which we loved.  We also love H. E. Marshall’s English Literature for Boys and Girls – we still use that now,  All of my Buckley, Marhsall  and Gatty books I got at second hand book shop in Stratford – they were all original editions and were not awfully expensive.  If you have a second hand/antique book shop near where you go, maybe you will find them there – though there are reprints available for most. 

    You asked if my daughters want to go to university – they are not a hundred percent sure yet.  One will more than likely go to study equine science if she goes at all, or she will just go back to Europe for classical dressage training – she is weighing the pros and cons at the moment.  The other is not at all sure, but as she has a minor disability she has said she would like to do an online degree course, as this would be better suited to her.  As we will most likely be living here for the forseeable future – we have not looked into British universities, so I cannot tell you much about that.  I am not sure how the schools over there handle home schooled students, they may well need to do A levels, unless they accept entrance exams at the actual school.  Do you have someone over there who could call a university or college and ask that question, so you will know for the future.  We use some textbooks for math and science and German, but for language arts, literature and history/geography we use a CM approach.  We read a lot of British History and like the books by Alison Weir for high school British History.  Gerald Durrell wrote some wonderful nature books as well, if they are still available.  How the Heather Looks by Joan Bodger is a beautiful book and should be in everyone’s library, also The Children of the New Forest by Captain Marryat.

    Thanks for your good wishes for my daughter, we are praying it all goes well – we will know more tomorrow.  I must say I envy you just a little, knowing you may be going home one day – I do like it here, but I miss home as do the girls.  Anyway, I will think and see if I can think of any other gems – but that is a start and if you think of anything else to ask, please do – I am happy to help if I can.  Sorry if this is all a bit of a jumble, I am trying to get my thoughts together quickly before bed.  We have to be at the hospital at 6am, so an early night for me as the hospital is an hour away.  Anyway, it is lovely to know another Brit is on the forum, hope this helps a little.  Linda

    Hello… I am not a British mum.  But I wanted to add something here.  I use MEP maths.  Which is a wonderful maths program from the UK.  It might be suited for you better than US math programs.  They just recently came out with a reception level also.  That might be something to check out.

    OH and fantastic book reccomendations Linda!!  I hope that the surgery goes well for you daughter!!

    Carrie

    Thanks Carrie – just got hope from the hospital – my daughter is still very groggy and asleep in her bed – we will have biopsy results next week, all is looking good though so far, thank the Lord.  Good suggestion on the math by the way.  Linda

    Inky
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    Thanks both of you.  Glad to hear the surgery has gone well so far.

    Linda, those suggestions are so helpful – thank you. I remember some of them from when I was young and others are new to me so I’ll start researching. Yes, I miss home too and it’s been a culture shock but also a great adventure moving here. I say we’re here for a couple of years…but then who knows…our plans have changed lots of times already! I’m sure I’ll have more questions in future so thanks for listening!

    Carrie, thanks very much too for the MEP maths suggestion.  I came across MEP maths a few weeks ago and have been wondering about it, so I’m interested to hear you recommending it. I haven’t had time yet to look at it in any great depth, but I’d be interested to know from you or anyone else who’s used it, how you think it compares  with Right Start or MathUSee.  I’m guessing with MEP maths you supply the manipulatives yourself. I love the fact it’s free and is from the UK.  Do you think it’s as thorough as  the other two curriculums (bearing in mind I’m not a confident maths person myself)?  Also I’m interested in what age you started it at. In the UK, reception is for age 4-5s, but I know too that Charlotte would recommend delaying formal lessons till age 6.

    Ruth

     

    Glad to help out Ruth, and hope to hear from you in the future as to how things are going.  If I think of any other books, I will let you know.  Linda

    Ruth,

    I honestly can’t say how it compares to the other programs from personal experience.  I haven’t used the other two.  It is a spiral program, which isn’t usually considered a CM style maths program.  I do love it though, as do my two boys!  They are both very math inclined.  My older ds just turned 8 last month and younger ds will be 7 in two weeks.  After advice from other MEP users I decided to go ahead and start them at Year 1 MEP.  Even though for most things in that level they would be ahead.  There were many aspects that they had not learned yet.  And I wanted them to have a firm grasp of the program and really enoy it.  Which they have.  So to backtrack here (sorry) they would have started Year 1 in Sept at ages 6 and 7 (although at the end of those ages… lol ).  Most of the work in year one is easy for them.  So I provide more challenging items on the side.  For instance Year 1 just starts them on learning how to form numbers and beginning 0 + 1 =1 ect..  my boys were already adding/subtracting double digits.  Year 1 also works a lot on more than/less than/equal to/not equal to, with the signs.  That was something my boys had struggled with and didn’t have a firm grasp on.  Now they do.  Plus they understand inequalities, which they didn’t before.  OH and MEP maths does this thing where they will give a problem like this : 

     4<(add a little 2 inside the <)x so the child solves x.  And then the child makes the math problem.  4+2=6

    It’s great, the boys love doing those type of problems.  Anyways.. those are all in Year 1.  Sorry, I could go on and on.  The boys do use their own manipulatives.  Whatever they want that day.  It may be their army men or coins, somtimes it’s small rocks.  Or legos.  The lessons are very easy to follow.  They take about 20 minutes to complete.  They also include singing, whole body movement and lots of teacher involvement.  And very little workbook.  We use our whiteboard more than anything else.

    There is a Yahoo MEP group that I would reccomend you join if you decide to use MEP maths.  They are fantastic and have been a huge help for me.  They also have all the materials ready for you to print.  It’s easier than getting them off the UK’s site.  And they could answer any question you may have. 

    I hope I haven’t rambled too much!!  Take care!

    Carrie

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