Advice about All About Spelling/Spelling in General

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  • akirechelle
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    I have All About Spelling and used it with my son years ago, but he was a very natural speller and we put the program aside.

    I have 2 girls, 6 and 7(almost8). The youngest is still working on beginning reading and seems like she is picking up on spelling like her brother.

    My middle girl reads very well, has amazing vocab, but doesn’t spell well.  She spells words exactly like they sound and she picks up accents and the way words are commonly spoken here in TX and she will argue about how it sounds when I tell her the letters..haha…She is a prolific writer and uses pages and pages every day in her amazing little books. They can be read (understood) but the spelling is off even on “easy” words. I am afraid she has practiced spelling incorrectly so much that she will really struggle.  

    I brought out AAS again and she can do the lessons, and seems a bit bored (I hate using that word lol). I am also really struggling to fit it in. I know it is just 15-20 mins but it is not getting done consistently.  

    My question is should I just continue with copywork with her and ease into dictation and not worry about her spelling? I admit I haven’t researched enough about spelling to be comfortable making a decision.

    Here are some examples: Dyr Pop, I am glad you r in hevin i bet you r tocen to God. I Love You.

    Wuns A Pon a Tym

    Poem: “God is Bigr thin all” The river the oshen and the se ar all bigr thin me. The bar(bear) the lien the clif and the maonton(mountain) ar bigr thin me. But dont you agri that God is bigr thin all of thim?

     

    Maybe since my other two are so great at spelling hers seems to need a lot of work? Or does she need some extra help in this area? 

    I also wanted to share a story she dictated to my husband the other night. He wrote her words verbatim, but the punctuation is his 🙂

    There once was a family who each had favorite things: music, books, shows, lots of things. Their favorite thing of all was the Bible, because it is all true. There was always something new every time they read it. It was God’s word, and he is the real God. Everyday, before and after every meal, during every meal, and before bedtime, they would pray.

    Their family was a family of four: Julie, Dave, and of course their parents Marian and Mr. Wallace. Mrs. Marian Wallace was about to have another baby. Dave wanted the baby to be a boy. Julie wanted the new baby to be a girl. The new baby was a boy. They named him Jacob because it was a good Bible character name. Julie was happy, even though the baby was a boy. They bought the baby a cradle. When they put the baby in- the baby started crying. Dave put his ear by the baby though the cradle. They all heard a faint noise besides the crying. Dave said, “There is a monster in the baby’s belly!” Mrs. Marian said, “No, the baby is hungry.”

    Chapter 2

    The Wallace family looked in their cabinets for food the baby could eat. There were only the foods the baby could not chew. They went to the market to get  food for the baby. They looked in the vegetable aisle. There were no potatoes, peas, or carrots, and those were the vegetables they wanted to make the baby food out of. Julie said, “Let’s look at the fruit aisle” so  they looked for bananas but there were apples. Julie said, “Let’s make apple sauce for the baby!” They got some apples, nice red ones. Then they took them home and made applesauce for the baby. Mrs. Marian scooped some applesauce into the spoon and put it in the baby’s mouth. He spit it out. Dave said, “Ewww. Yucky!”  The End

     

    I really want to put away the All about spelling, what do you wise ladies think?

     

    Her spelling doesn’t seem to effect her reading ability at all. She can read fluently the words she mispells.  Sometimes she reads to me in a British accent..she is a fun girl to be around and I don’t want to squash her creativity.

    Thank you!

     

    akirechelle
    Participant

    Bump 🙂

    TailorMade
    Participant

    Have you looked at the Spelling Wisdom or Delightful Reading YouTube videos that Sonya has on the SCM site? This might give you some alternative ideas.

    Just helping bump at this point.

    Rebekahy
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    I’m not an expert in spelling, my oldest is like your older ones, a natural speller – needing very little help.  BUT, I think that 6 is a little young to be too intense with spelling – my then 6 year old second child spelled EXACTLY like your daughter!  Now she is 7.5 and without any formal spelling program is spelling 100 TIMES better.  I attribute it to using Dianne Craft’s brain exercises for the right brained learner  (which you might want to look into because it appears that your daughter is very creative – which can be one of the ways that right brain tendency shows).  I’m sure you’ll get lots more replies, but perhaps can take a peak at Dianne Craft’s info to see if any of it resonates with your DD.

    Blessings,

    Rebekah

    TailorMade
    Participant

    Btw, she’s obviously a gifted writer!

    TailorMade
    Participant

    Rebekahy, So, so true! Age is most likely the issue. We love Brain Gym exercises. Not sure they originated from Diane Craft, but extremely helpful!

    crazy4boys
    Participant

    This is my story of using AAS.  Currently 3 of my 4 are using it and have for years.  All started in Level 1, the oldest 2 started at 9ish, the 3rd started at 7 because he was ‘ready’.  Of the 2 oldest, one is a natural speller (and is the writer), the other has language processing problems.  Over the years I’ve despaired that the one son would EVER learn to spell.  EVER.  But we continued with daily copywork, with read-alouds, independent reading (which was REALLY hard for him for a long time) and all the other great CM ideas.  We also did AAS daily.  Usually 5 to 10 minutes.  For him I do the lesson and the 10 words.  The next day we do the phrases (sometimes only 3 of the 6) and the next day finish the phrases (if we didn’t get them done).  When he first started sentences we did 3 a day, for 4 days.  Now he does 6 sentences a day.  He’s now 13 and his spelling is much improved.  Great?  No.  But I can see that he’s learning.  Slowly.  But that is due to learning challenges beyond his control.  For him, learning the rules has been crucial.  To be able to look at a word and say, “oh, short vowel, one syllable…I probably double the F, L, or S” has given him tools that work.  For this particular child, in this circumstance, the program and time and a variety of other things have worked.  My other 2 natural spellers could take it or leave it – they’d do well in any program I used.  My son sounds very different from your daughter but just wanted to give you the experience we’ve had with it.

    akirechelle
    Participant

    Thank you all 🙂  I have been looking into Dianne Craft recently, so that is good to know.  I think I will put it aside and reevaluate when she is older to see how things are going.  Load off my shoulders for sure 🙂

    heatherma
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    Thought I’d tag a Q. on here as well. We use AAS; 2nd son 6 1/2 yrs has gone thru the first book 1 1/2 times.  We do it broken up like crazy4boys mentioned above.  He gets the rules for the most part and is reading some.  The only reason I am doing it with him so early is he Loves to write and I would really like him to see it written correctly more often than not, which is why I started him on AAS last year.  However, same story as SeekingHisHeart’s original post. 

    So here is what I am considering for the remainder of this school year for him.  Either take a break completely and just focus on copywork and reading (this pains me greatly but I know we’d come back to it fresh in the fall) or limit it to slowly working thru the shuffled word cards 5-10 a day: 1 day reading them, next day spelling with tiles, 3rd day on whiteboard, and only setting them aside as mastered when it comes with great ease.  More experienced mom-teachers,what do you think?

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