1st time gardener

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  • Misty
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    Ladies, I am starting a garden for the 1st time! My hubby rented a tiller and went wild, we have 10 acres and if we weren’t paying by the hour I think he would have tilled between the pine trees 😆 instead I do have a very nice 30×25 foot well tilled area!

    I live in MN and it’s time to start the hardy items I’m told. So I’d like to know from you gardeners what are the things I should know and probably don’t. Any hints on how to put things in my garden. What to do more than I should or less of. Whatever you got I’m willing to learn!

    I bought potatos, onions, carrots, lettuce’s and peas! I figured that’s a start and they said it’s to early for the other vegi’s and fruits?!. So I listened. But how do I do it, rows, squares, keep weeds out and not pull the plants on accident? 🙄

    I need to learn from you!

    Misty

    csmamma
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    Greetings Misty,

    I’m Heathers (from Michigan)husband Tim.

    First off your blessed to have 10 acres. Be prepared for the garden to grow in size every year. Mine started as a 10 x 10 ft square in a community garden 14 years ago. Through about 6+ moves were now up to 2 gardens that could feed the development we live in. Depending on your road frontage, I would encourage a veggie stand to bring in some extra income. You can easily grow more than you can eat, or you can simply add to your food stores by canning and freezing.

    You are correct in starting the early crops. If your planting the peas , you will need to put up fences. You’ll want the fences to be about 4ft tall, and as long as you want. The plants will grow all the way to the top. The key to an abundant harvest on them is to pick them when they are about 2-3 inches. If they sit on the vine too long, overnight they will get “fat” and tough. They are the best when they are thin and small.

    The key to onions and carrots is deep, finely tilled soil. Because they are root plants, they need room to grow. If your soil is heavy, you may need to add some sand or compost to loosen the soil well. The deeper you can till the better. I’ve tried carrots off and on for years and finally got it right last year. This year we planted 12000 seeds.

    The packages may say space 1″ apart and thin later, but it would take you till fall to plant them all in this manner. I would plant the carrots in rows, simply take a pinch of seed and lightly sprinkle from side to side. I would suggest making a line with your finger where you run out of seed from each pinch. Otherwise you’ll loose your place. The seeds are barely visible on the soil. If you plant squares, you can’t get in to weed any of them without stepping on some and compacting the soil. The same can be said for the onions. Last year I planted in a square, but I’ll be trying the rows this year, simply to make it easier for weeding.

    Potatoes, don’t plant them whole! They should have little eyes forming on them. Cut the potatoes in 1/3’s or 1/4’s. Some books recommend letting them sit for a couple of days, others say to sprinkle “sulphur” I think. We just cut them and throw them in the hole. Have never had a problem with them growing.

    We have never planted lettuce from seed, but I would expect that it should be started from inside. We went the easy way on that and bought the plants.

    Let me know if you have any other quetions.

    Don’t forget to ask a blessing on your hands and laborers as your planting.

    Oh yeah and don’t forget to water:)

    Tim

    Misty
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    Thank you so much, I will print this off and keep it with my information i have been getting. You are a wealth of information!~ Blessings to your garden!

    Misty

    Kristen
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    Hello Misty,

    Congrats on starting a garden! I live in Wisconsin and we are gearing up for another fun season! I would suggest adding a fertilizer (manure from cows, horses or chickens is best, if you can get it) You might also want to do a soil sample to see what kind you need, or if you need lime. Ask about that at your agricultural department in your county. This may sound like a pain to do, but a friend of mine spent lots of money every year on all kinds of plants and because she didn’t fertilize she got no return from it. Frustrating to say the least!

    I plant alot of things becuase we can and freeze alot of our food for the year . . . but for the first time I would start small, it takes alot of time to weed!

    And Tim was right it seems to grow in size every year no matter what I say of do!

    Good Luck and if you have more questions ask away!

    Kristen

    Karen Smith
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    Misty,

    Congratulations on starting your first garden! We’ve grown one for many years and thoroughly enjoy it.

    Before planting anything in your garden you should check to see what hardiness zone you live in. If I remember correctly, you live in Minnesota, which has a hardiness zone range of 2 to 4. The zone maps give you a guide as to when your last frost date in the spring and first frost date in the fall are. Between those dates is your growing season.

    You are correct that some plants can be planted before the last frost date. Spinach, broccoli, cabbage, carrots, lettuce, peas, anything that is “cold-hardy” can be planted. However, though these plants can take a frost, they can not take a hard frost or freeze, so you will want to make sure that you don’t plant them while there is still a chance of a hard frost. By the way, potatoes are not cold-hardy, so you should wait until after you last frost date to plant them.

    Manure is great for your garden! But there are guidelines for that as well. Fresh manure should never be put on a garden that is going to be planted soon. The manure is still “hot” and will burn your plants. Think of what happens when someone over fertilizes their lawn. The grass “burns” and turns brown. The same thing will happen to your garden plants. The solution? Use composted manure in the spring. It is no longer hot so will not burn your plants.

    A good gardening book to get is Square Foot Gardening. You may want to contact your county extension office, too. They will be able to give you information about growing plants specific to your area.

    I hope your first year gardening is a big success!

    Rene
    Participant

    Here is a link that has been helpful to me with my first garden this year.

    http://www.motherearthnews.com/Organic-Gardening/What-To-Plant-Now.aspx

    Click on your region and they tell you each month what you could/should be doing.

    I second Square Foot Gardening (we are doing two 4-foot beds this year) and also Lasagna Gardening.

    We are growing:

    Bush and Pole beans

    Tomatoes

    Beets

    Scallions

    Baby carrots

    Swiss Chard

    Bell Peppers

    and Kale – although after I planted the kale I read that it really is a winter veggie as it needs cold to sweeten up the leaves and therefore might not taste good grown through the summer.

    I’m learning SO much about tomatoes – I’ve killed a few baby plants. But I think I might be getting the hang of it now.

    Karen Smith
    Moderator

    Misty, how is your garden coming along? Did you get anything planted yet?

    Here in northern Illinois we are getting ready to plant our cabbages, broccoli, lettuce, and root crops, just waiting for the garden to dry out enough to till. We have started harvesting asparagus and rhubarb, though. I love this time of year when I can plan my meals around what is ripe in the garden rather than what is available at the store!

    I hope your garden grows lots of good things to eat, too!

    Misty
    Participant

    Ahhh thanks for thinking of me 🙂

    Well I did plant my onions and I can see them poppin up! My peas are also starting to pop and I can tell where they are! I know where my potatos are but see nothing :(. My lettuce?? not sure if it’s lettuce or weeds but there are things there that should look like lettuce I just know I didn’t plant that much :lol:. Then that leave carrots and lets just say I’m hopefull. I know have any idea if they are there and starting or not.

    I started some in doors so that I could really see it and tell, so the onions I transplanted, the lettuce, the peas but the carrots?? still nothing.

    Oh, well we’re trying and that has to count for something.

    Misty

    csmamma
    Participant

    I’m sure you’re doing great, Misty! Patience is a wonderful virtue to learn while gardening. 🙂

    Karen Smith
    Moderator

    Be patient with the carrots. They usually take a bit longer to sprout than other some of the other seeds.

    csmamma
    Participant

    Karen,

    I’ve heard that asparagus take years to produce a crop. You and Doug must have much more patience than my husband and I. 🙂 I’d love to hear of your experience with growing this tasty veggie.

    Blessings,

    Heather

    Doug Smith
    Keymaster

    You can start from crowns instead of seed and get a head start. Crowns are just established root systems with some dormant top growth. Most garden centers sell asparagus that way.

    You usually plant them in the spring. So if you plant this year you just let them grow without harvesting anything. Then next year you also let them grow and don’t harvest any. (I know, it’s hard but don’t pick ’em.) Then the following year you can start harvesting. It’s important to wait because it will feed the roots and increase production for the years to come.

    Here are some nice instructions: http://www.ehow.com/how_9880_grow-asparagus.html

    And I must mention that asparagus and eggs are fantastic together. I have to make an asparagus frittata at least once each spring.

    csmamma
    Participant

    Doug,

    Thanks for filling me in how to grow asparagus; I’ll be sure to share your wisdom and the link with my husband.

    The frittata sounds wonderful and makes me want to grow it all the more!

    Don’t yah just love this time of year?

    Happy Gardening!

    Heather

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