I would like to have your thoughts on this clip from last nights speech about education:
Do you think this will change conditions for home school? And if yes how?
I don't think that this has anything to do with changes for homeschool. Most homeschool parents already expect their children to do school at least until they are 18 or until they graduate. If the child graduates before they turn 18 then they have already fullfulled what the president was talking about in this clip.
It would make a difference to me--my state only requires "attendance" to age 16. Every year the liberals decide we need to move it to 18. It's true my sons will be studying when they are 18, but my state's laws would then require me to test and do all the other rigamarole they require of everyone 6-16, costing me money and time each year to fulfill their dumb requirements. I hope and pray this one goes NOWHERE, and hopefully the House of Representatives will have nothing to do with it.
Same thing in my state as in Michelle's, but even if it weren't, this statement disturbs me GREATLY!. This is a state and a parent issue-not the Federal gov't. Just another usurpation of power towards more centralization and coming from a President who, within the same speech, says that he wants “The executive branch also needs to change. Too often, it’s inefficient, outdated and remote. That’s why I’ve asked this Congress to grant me the authority to consolidate the federal bureaucracy...", that's requesting a change in the actual Constitution regarding the Executive branch!
It's true; dictatorships are far more efficient than a Constitutional Republic...though they definitely aren't smaller in size; but the ruler can make things happen as they don't have to deal with pesky checks and balances.
We should all be quite worried and call our Representatives and pray like crazy. Do you think that, if given this new authority that that's the only thing regarding education and parental rights that would come down from the "consolidated" federal power structure? I could imagine the appointed, unaccountable "education Czar" as having a hand in future mandates, too if these things continue to move in the wrong direction.
I have to say I got scared when he said "has to stay in school". I hope he ment to include home schools in it.
On another side I agree with you bookworm. To control that really everyone under 19 who has not graduated is doing school work, all the states will have to come up with much stricter oversight of the home school families. Our State has absolutely no testing or record keeping requirements so far. If States would have to follow this regulation, they would start regulating home schoolers much stricter. For families in Arizona it would make a big difference.
I know Christine and I don't want contention; I brought it up because I really do think that it's truly related. It puts his mindset about power into proper context.
He stated that about an education view that he has currently. What view will he have later? Okay, what if the Congress rejects it? He's stated multiple times-including last night-that he will do what he thinks is right for this country "with or without Congress".
How many of his ideas about education will he go around Congress to implement if they don't give him what he thinks are reasonable requests?
Please contact your Reps and encourage them to stand firm no matter what and be obvious about it.
ps. I"ll try to contain my being livid about the whole thing so as not to hijack your thread and the important topic you brought forth. I tried to post the HSLDA alert that I received and wasn't able.
If he has his way (and if Congress doesn't give it to him, he'll just create a czar or an executive order for it), I will be scared. MN has too many laws already (IMHO) - I don't need more. Right now, they only have to be in school till their 16. To make it 18, how will that affect teens who want to do college their last 2 years of "high school?" Will they not be able to get those credits out of the way early?
And that's just my opinion on just the education statement. I could go on and on like Rachel did.
I just wanted to add that at this point it is much less about political parties and much more a direct hit to the Consitution and the checks and balances system. We have to be diligent and active about protecting both the Constitution and our rights. Agree with all posts above. ;)
@Rachel, don't worry, I didn't feel hijacked.I am really worried if he would have another 4 years, and not just in regard of our freedom to home school but our freedom as believers and citizens.
Missingtheshire brought up a good point. We need to be very vigilant. Education is a key instrument in creating a certain desired citizen. I may be very sensitive to this because I come from Germany, our country was devided and as a 9th grader I got to do a week long trip to the socialist part of the country. If you have never seen it you just can't believe what it is like to have to live this way.Later on in high school I studied socialism and communism extensively and read all the major works of Marx, Engel and Lenin. Their plans to implement socialism/communism are brilliant in an evil way and so seducing, hardly detectable by the common men. Like I said, public education is a key role in the plan.
I don''t want to say this is what is going to happen, but every tiny bit on "more government" in our lifes sets me in high alert.
Christine, we may have a sensitivity to freedom, because of our experiences, because like you I have experience of the loss of freedom. My mother is German and when the Russians took over their sector a good portion of my mother's relatives were on the Russian side in the East trapped until the wall came down. I too have visited the relatives there before the wall came down, and I too know the horrors of the communist system....it is frightening. I spent many years in Germany and of course was born in England, so the things I see happening here set off huge alarm bells for me - I am willing to say that this country is heading in the wrong direction in the worst possible way and it worries me a lot - the freedoms are taken a little at a time so that people sleep through the changes and don't notice until it is too late. I too am on high alert......I am sorry to say.
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