Notebooking advice for a 6 year old

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  • Inky
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    I’m still very new to this so looking for advice.  I’m thinking of notebooking 1 page a day. Just wondering:

    -what sujects to notebook

    -how to schedule this (eg have a ‘notebooking’ time each day, or just squeeze it in at the end of a lesson, or notebook what we read about the previous day (to avoid the lesson being too long)

    – any advice really: your best tip, pitfalls to avoid etc.  I’m anxious to reap the benefits of notebooking whilst avoiding long school days.

    sheraz
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    I really love the advantages of notebooking.  I usually notebook subjects like history, science, geography, nature study, composer and picture study…but I have 11 and 12 yr olds who notebook.  They can organize their ideas, thoughts, and impressions on paper in coherent ways.  My younger ones aren’t going to worry about notebooking until writing is not a chore and oral narrations are built up as a sufficient strong skill. 

    It depends on the subject and the length of the lessons for scheduling.  Sometimes to help them stay focused on the story they will draw a picture of something in the lesson, usually while I am reading.  If I know I that I am doing written narrations I save that subject for last.  Then I am not sitting around waiting to go on to the next subject and getting impatient. =)

    Six is still so young.  I would be VERY careful to not overwhelm a child with too much too fast.  Unless my child was an amazing child prodegy at six, I would be training for strong oral narrations first.  

     

    Inky
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    Thanks Sheraz, that’s very helpful.  Up to now we’ve notebooked rather randomly – mainly colouring pages and maps, with some oral narrations that I wrote down/typed.  I must say I did less and less writing as the year went on – just because of time pressures.  Having said that, she is so proud of her notebooks. She even (her own idea) read out a beautiful narration of cindarella that i had typed as she narrated, on SKYPE to her Grandparents – she was so pleased with efforts and they were clearly impressed and delighted.

    I guess I’d like to carry on notebooking, but be more focussed and organised – which is why I wondered about doing 1 page a day – though maybe even this is too much?

    I like your advice “training for strong oral narrations first”.  I’d love to know a little more what your experience/advice is in this.

    erin.kate
    Participant

    We don’t notebook at that age, per se, but we do keep a very modified commonplace book with even our littlest “school age” children. So, for my 6 yo (1st grade), she has a sweet commonplace book where she will write down or illustrate a line of her choosing (something that inspires her, stirs her, makes her laugh, cry, and the like) as copywork from poetry, tales, Shakespeare, and Bible, once per day four days per week. Otherwise, I only encourage oral narrations at this point. I should note that her preparatory commonplace book is also her handwriting practice. She is now doing SCM’s Print to Cursive Proverbs (she is severely dysgraphic and cursive is our wisest transition now) but each lesson is over the entire week, so her hand work is kept to a minimum, while I train her oral narrations firstly. She does not participate in any History or Geography work in the Modules other than oral narrations.

    eawerner
    Participant

    Is notebooking a CM thing? I haven’t seen it in  any of the literature I’ve read, though I haven’t gone through the original series.

    Inky
    Member

    eawerner,

    Good question.  I’d love to know what others think on this too.

    I think she advocated nature journaling (notebooking), plus pupils would have filled sketchpads with drawings/paintings, and presumably filled notebooks with copywork.  I’m not sure she ever mentioned the mother/teacher writing down oral narrations.  For older children I think she suggested that they write their own narrations. Older children would have also created a Book of Centuries, and a Book of Mottos

    sheraz
    Participant

    My children are creative and artistic and love to make and decorate things.  After we had homeschooled for a while prior to finding CM methods, I met resistance everytime we pulled out a basic lined composition book.  They were bored with those lines and hated to use the books. In the meantime I was using Five in a Row and they had little fold and go books to use with their curriculum – aka lapbooking.  I loved the idea of using creativity in my girls school work – they thrive with that kind of thing.  However, I also didn’t like having file folders stacking up everywhere, so dh and I decided to use the lapbooks on cardstock in a three ring binder.  While I was looking for lapbooks, I came across a site called “notebookingpages.com” and a whole new world opened up for me.  She uses a combination of TJEd, Classical, and CM to teach her children. I really liked what she had planned out since I was finding myself designing things like that to help catch my dd attention.  In the meantime, I started researching the 3 different methods, found SCM and have never looked back.  =)  

    I have a dd with learning challenges (Auditory Processing Disorder) and have found that the notebooking of narrations in as many subjects as I can get her to do is VITAL to her ability to process, organize and present the information that she is trying to take in.  Notebooking pages to us at her level (5th grade) really is about her drawn and written narrations.  She loves the different formats of the notebooking pages so chooses those to help get prepared to order her thoughts.  The ones where she illustrates what she does are amazing in detail, where the written ones are less detailed.  It is a very real struggle for her, and will always be a challenge. 

    So, while I don’t think that Charlotte Mason coined the phrase “Notebooking” – like you said, she did have a nature journal, copywork, written narrations, and other artistic sketch pads.  I see no difference in written narrations whether it be on a plain composition page or one with a pretty border in a 3 ring binder.  Honestly, does that matter as far as it being a CM thought up thing?  Now having said that, there is “notebooking” and then there is “notebooking”. lol

    As we use it for my older children (ages 11 and 12), notebooking is pretty much drawn or written narrations on paper with a border or lines or a design.  Sometimes it will have a box for a drawing in it. These pages are printed out and kept in their subject folders.

    The other “notebooking” is what I use with my younger children, Ruth, very similiar to what you mentioned that you use it for.  I have printed out coloring pages of literature books we listen to, insects or nature items we saw on our walks, letter and number activity pages, science related things, and other things that we do with them for school. I hadn’t considered this notebooking since I called the older girls stuff that, so when I answered last night, that is why I had reservations of a six year olds ability to notebook.  =) 

    Of course continue doing the little pages with her.  Those are important because if she is like my dc, she refers to it a lot, is proud of it, and “owns” the work that went in to it!  It makes them interested and enthusiastic about learning.  

    As far as my real experience with strong oral narration, well… mine were older and able to read and write when we started narration.  But, even then, narration took a good long while to get the hang of, and we are still working on it.  At six (my next dd is almost there) we will start with Aesop’s Fables and work with them for oral narrations.  My goal is that she can hear the story and tell it back to me in order with a lot of details to be considered a “strong oral narration”.  During this time she is also going to be practicing her copywork to be able to frame the letters and words without a lot of thought and stress… then, and only then, am I going to do the “other” notebooking type pages with her.

    Charlotte Mason may not have said to write a young child’s narration down.  However, when my little ones see the older ones writing and telling me what they have learned, she wants to be like them.  It really can help them create the habit.  And as Sonya has repeatedly said, starting a written narration and letting them finish it as you help a child make the transition from oral to written can ease the child over the hump and into independence.  In my experience, doing that will help my children be independent faster in the long run. 

    To be more specific, I haven’t ever looked ahead at the lessons and said oh, I must plan one everyday.  For me, it really does depend on time, how I feel, what the subject is, etc.  I just try to always have a bunch of pages printed for use as we go – then I can assign it as we are doing things.

    Really, we do pages for all artists, scientists, inventors, writers, and important influential people we study.  We also use them for mid-term exam pages, science experiements, cool moments in history, occasional literature chapters, daily narrations of independent work, etc.

    bethanna
    Participant

    My dd6 loves to illustrate some of the poems we read. I type it, leaving plenty of blank space on the paper. We keep these in a notebook with pictures she has drawn of our lit. books.

    Inky
    Member

    Thanks – that’s really helpful.

    Last year, because I was so new to homeschool, I was trying classical and CM.  I got confused with narration, because Classical (Well Trained Mind) narration is so different from CM: classical asking for short one or two sentence summaries, and CM asking for a beautiful well ordered piece with lots of detail. 

    This year we’re switching completely to CM – I’m so excited!

    I think it’s me who tends to get overwhelmed – I think my issue is I’m looking at my booklist and wondering how I’m going to fit it all in, and wondering what needs to go – ?notebooking

    I guess I’m still at the planning stage and it will become clear over the next couple of weeks before term starts – eeek!

    eawerner
    Participant

    sheraz – thank you for your reply!  What you are saying about the various ways a child with a CM education records their work is definately something I get.  The only thing I had ever seen defined as ‘notebooking’ was more along the lines of busywork, with preprinted main points/connections to cut and glue together as a lapbook.  It didn’t seem very CM friendly at all which was why I was curious about the notebooking work you all were doing.  🙂  Two totally different things it sounds like.

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