Yoo Hoo, Sonya! Lots of Questions!!

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  • CindyS
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    I am ‘home alone’ this week with the little ones and so I have had time to ponder our schedule and just how we are doing things around here. We are slipping from the gold, I can tell. I have a few questions after skimming through my well-worn copy of Mrs. Levinson’s book, and reading through the schedules on this site, as well as your response to the “Ideas” thread. So, here goes:

    On the schedule page (and I do not know if that is your’s or Karen’s schedule, or a compilation) there is a block for Family Work. I assume that means the littlest to the biggest. Oh, it may help you to know that I have a 12th grader down to a K student. I am wondering how you do Scripture memory, History, Bible PLUS one or more of the following: Hymn Study, Lit, Poetry, Picture study, Music study, Drawing, Nature Study, and Geography. How does this work out logistically?

    Then I noticed that the older ones do extra history, etc. What are you doing that is history together as a family versus what they are doing independently?

    How do you mesh flexibility with requirements for high school, and for the littler ones, just the desire, to get through a certain amount of content per year? Not knowing what state you are in, perhaps this is not a concern, but where we are, it’s not as easy to use CM because of the huge paper trail we need to leave behind. It disheartens my children to always and ever have to write down what they learned just to meet requirements, but that’s a topic for another day…

    How do you keep from getting bogged down as life continues to happen and interruptions are inevitable with small children?

    Finally (at least for the moment 🙂 ), how do you allow for indepth narrations on the part of the child and keep moving so as to not get bogged down (there’s that word again!), or not hold up everyone that is joining in with that particular lesson? Boy, that sounded jumbled! For example…say we are reading Of Courage Undaunted and child A gives a great narration and is ready to go on to something else, while child B wants to build a boat, read all the books in the library about a certain tribe, and go on a field trip. I’m exaggerating, but not too much. The narrations that are desired on the part of the child are often ones in which I need to help. With so many other children, I do not have time in my schedule to focus to this level on one child without stopping everyone. We could easily have a scenario where we learn lots of cool stuff, but we never learn to keep our rooms tidy, be hospitable, etc.

    Oh, one more, one more! How have you reconciled the shorter lesson time with the fact that Charlotte Mason’s schools met for six days, not five?

    I am thankful for this website. It is helping me see that what we really have set out to do is so easy to slip from and you and all these dear, sweet ladies are great reminders to keep following after the best.

    Blessings,

    Cindy

    Sonya Shafer
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    Great questions, Cindy. As you are fully aware, every family is different; but I’ll be happy to share what has worked for us 🙂

    I am wondering how you do Scripture memory, History, Bible PLUS one or more of the following: Hymn Study, Lit, Poetry, Picture study, Music study, Drawing, Nature Study, and Geography. How does this work out logistically?

    We do Family Work scattered throughout the day, usually. You could do it all at once, but it works better for us to do Scripture Memory and a History read-aloud right after breakfast, then do Bible and one of the others later in the day. We rotate the other subjects, doing them once a week. So on Monday we might do Bible and Picture Study in that time slot; Tuesday, Bible and Geography; Wednesday, just do Nature Study; etc. We don’t try to do every subject every day. Literature we like to read at snack time in the middle of the afternoon, usually every day because we enjoy it so much.

    Then I noticed that the older ones do extra history, etc. What are you doing that is history together as a family versus what they are doing independently?

    We read a biography all together as a family or a book about the time period that requires some editing on my part. Then the older children have other books they’re reading independently about the same time period. For example, right now we’re in the early 1900s. I was reading at breakfast time a book about the Titanic. I didn’t want to read all of every chapter, so that was one that I chose to do as a read-aloud. Then the older children are reading age-appropriate books about Alexander Graham Bell right now. I think my oldest is finishing up Booker T. Washington’s autobiography too. In December we won’t be doing a Family biography because of a change in my schedule, but they will be reading books about Teddy Roosevelt. Actually, come to think of it, in January I’ll be swapping out the Family breakfast read-aloud time for a geography book.

    How do you mesh flexibility with requirements for high school, and for the littler ones, just the desire, to get through a certain amount of content per year?

    That’s a tough one, since it varies so much from area to area. I mainly aim for more independent work as the child gets older, so that by the time she’s in high school she’s able to study the required courses on her own while still enjoying our Family work times that don’t take up a whole lot of extra time. As far as the littler ones, you’re right, there’s a balance between being flexible and making progress through the content. In my mind, whenever I’m faced with the decision of take-more-time vs. keep-moving, I tend to gravitate toward the side of cutting content. My reasoning is that there will always be things that my children won’t know (just as there are so many things I don’t know), but if I can cultivate and protect their love for learning (balanced with some discipline and hard work, mind you) they will be able to learn about those things at any time in their lives. Whereas, if I push so hard that I squelch their natural curiosity and desire to learn, they won’t be inclined to learn anything on their own after they “do their time.” Does that make sense?

    How do you keep from getting bogged down as life continues to happen and interruptions are inevitable with small children?

    Margin. Simplify. Don’t try to do every subject every day. Build margin into your schedule so you don’t go through the day feeling perpetually behind. Focus on some subjects for a month and enjoy them. Then focus on other subjects for a month. Month time periods may not work best for your situation, but you get the idea. Divide and conquer. And of course, habits can make it all run more smoothly, but even those must be built one at a time.

    how do you allow for indepth narrations on the part of the child and keep moving so as to not get bogged down (there’s that word again!), or not hold up everyone that is joining in with that particular lesson?

    One thing that helped me immensely was to do three weeks of bookwork, then one project week — all year round. That one project week can be spent doing those more in-depth narrations projects, the older students would have a flex week to catch up on requirements possibly, and everyone would benefit from a little change of pace. Of course, some “project” weeks were set aside to do MY list of projects around the house, but even those counted for schoolwork in the Life Skills and Handicrafts section (if not more). For example, one week we set aside to tear down the old wallpaper in one bedroom, then paint and put up a new border. Since the room belonged to two older girls, I had them calculate how much paint we would need and how much wallpaper and how much wallpaper paste and what our budget was . . . Just an idea.

    How have you reconciled the shorter lesson time with the fact that Charlotte Mason’s schools met for six days, not five?

    I tend to focus mostly on the principle behind the short lessons — cultivating attention and all that it entails — rather than the timetable itself. Some subjects need only five or ten minutes (like copywork, Scripture memory, or some picture studies). Others might take longer on some days, depending on the length of the section we’re reading or the detail in the narration the child gives. That’s OK. I’m a big believer in making the schedule and the curriculum my servant, not my master! I also think that the concept of consistent “touches” (not necessarily long drawn-out ones) help the child absorb and assimilate the information. So we may not spend X hours a week on math, but they are making steady progress and haven’t developed a hatred of it. To me, that’s a measure of success.

    I feel like I rambled a bit, Cindy. I hope you can hear my heart through all these words. You are doing a tremendous work, dear, and I want to encourage you in it! Sometimes it helps me to go back to the foundational basics and ask myself what is most important to the Lord. For example, what does His Word say a godly man should know about math? Yes, a godly man can learn much more than the Word mentions, but what are God’s priorities first? And why does He want His children to know history; what is most important in that study? Those little tidbits can help calm my anxious thoughts and keep my perspective amid the day to day to day to day happenings.

    So be encouraged, Cindy, as you disciple those precious little (and growing!) ones God has given you. He is working with you and will give you insight each step of the way. The hard part is walking by faith one step at a time.

    CindyS
    Participant

    I like rambling, Sonya; I do it all the time! Thank you for your comments. They are truly helpful and include some things I never thought of – like cutting content. Some things make so much sense that I’m amazed I had never considered them before (forest & trees syndome?). Also it is helpful to remember that the road we have chosen was not chosen because it was necessarily the easiest path, but because it honors the Lord. I remember hearing Susan Macaulay (forgetting the exact spelling of her name at the moment) say that this is a hard job. That was so freeing to me then as I realized that I had been trying to recreate the “Teaching Home” cover photo family and felt like I must be doing something wrong if it was not easy! It’s good to be reminded. God is ever good—and merciful! —Oops! I’m rambling!

    Blessings,

    Cindy

    Hey, I like y’all’s ramblings as well! 🙂 One thing that really freed me is realizing that I can’t teach my dc everything. But if I can teach them to love learning and the basics, they can learn anything. Someone I heard once said we all leave gaps; we just choose what gaps to leave. For example, home arts are really important to us as is music. My oldest 7 are girls, and they all are sewing, knitting, crocheting, cross-stitching etc. And they all play a string instrument (some more than one!). But we don’t care as much about algebra, trig and geometry (unless it’s quilting! 😉 ) I am grateful to live in a hs friendly state, and I can see I would be a bit stressed trying to make sure my paper trail looked good enough to ensure my ability to continue hsing. We tend to do way more than required, though. I am going through a process of taking a deep breath and seeking God on how to get us going again (which is why I posted “getting re-started”!) I love this forum–I’ve learned a lot already, and sometimes, as you’ve said, Cindy, we’re too close to the forest to see the trees! So praise God for these dear sisters willing to help us refocus our “sight”!

    Okay, now *I’m* rambling! ::blush::

    Trisch

    CindyS
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