What to do about all my books? Help??

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  • chocodog
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    Ok,  Here is my dilima.  I have tons of books. I love books. I am sure all of you can relate right?  Ok, I have a kindle. I don’t mind buying books for it. I however would like to downsize my stash here at home. So, I was wondering if anyone has heard of a way to do this.

      My Dh  said that years ago he saw a scanner type machine. (hand held)  that scanned pages and put them on the computer. Now, I wouldn’t mind spending the money or scanning it in.  So, if anyone has heard or seen any one of these crazy contraptions can you speak up.  I also thought of scanning the pages with my printer and putting them in a PDF form but I am not sure how well that would look and how good it is, or exactly how to do it.  I have some books that I have read and  would like to reference but no longer need.  They are really good but I don’t want to pay for them again and I don’t want to be a book hoarder anymore. 🙂  My book shelves will thank you!  Innocent

        Thanks for any and all ideas or comments or suggestions.  Wink

    TailorMade
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    My only concern would be copyright issues. If they are in the public domain, just send them on as you’d be easily able to access them again. Keep reference books you think you really will refer to from time to time. If you have books written before 1960, post them for sale here first. There are some Homeschool librarians that would love to have first shot at them. ;0) (me, me, me, Robin, et al) ;0)

    Becca<><

    PS seems a duplexing scanner/printer may work for copying small amounts of pages that could be filed for future reference if entire books wouldn’t be scanned.

    chocodog
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    Do you think that would be a problem if I am only scanning them for my personal use? I mean I do own the book already. Hmmm?  I guess I didn’t think of that one. I still want to put them on my kindle or something.  To many books! I really need to do something. Some are older books and they are out of print.  some are hard for me to find.  As a matter of fact I have one book I have that I treasure because it helped me with my son. It was a blessing from G-d and I have never seen another one like it. I would love a copy of that on my kindle even if I had to buy it from Amazon. I will have to look up duplexing scanner/printer.  Thanks for the idea. I will have to keep you in mind when that time comes for removing them… 🙂

        Anyone else have any suggestions also???

    Doug Smith
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    First, if the book is not out of copyright then to be legal you would need to either keep or destroy the original book. You could not legally scan and keep a copy and then give or sell the physical book to someone else. So that may or may not solve your storage problem. 🙂

    The hard part about scanning books is that you either have to cut the binding off and run all the pages through a sheet fed scanner or take the time to place one page at a time on the scanner glass.

    Many scanners and all-in-one printer/scanners are available that have both sheet feeders and single page capability. Some of the sheet feeders will even do both sides of the page at once, but only for unbound pages, of course.

    There are also some do-it-yourself (DIY) scanners being built specifically for books. The book sits in a cradle and two digital cameras take pictures of both open pages at once. There’s a whole site dedicated to working on DIY book scanners, but it would take a lot fiddling to get somethign working that way. There is someone selling a kit of DIY book scanner parts but you still have to put it together and it’s nearly $500 without the cameras.

    A couple years ago there was a company that annouced plans to bring a similar product to market at an inexpensive price but it materialized. I’m not aware of anything out there commercially that isn’t in the thousands of dollars.

    chocodog
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    Thanks Doug!

        Ok, now I am wondering if my printer/scanner is one of those types. I have a HP officejet Pro L7580.

    I think it takes in pages at the top but I don’t know anything about it. I know it does have plenty of places for picture cards and USB cards ect…  It didn’t come with an owners manual and I can’t download one here at home due to dial-up. My friend set this up to my computer with a dowmloaded copy of one and took it with him. LOL… Anyway, I don’t mind taking apart the book binder if it would work in my printer.  Do you have any idea if this would work?  I am not sure if this is the kind of copy machine you are talking about but if it is then that would save me a world of search and money.  It would be awesome actually. 🙂  I would be so relieved.

       Thanks for all your help it is so appriciated.

    Doug Smith
    Keymaster

    Ok, now I am wondering if my printer/scanner is one of those types. I have a HP officejet Pro L7580.

    Looks like the L7580 has both a flatbed and sheet fed scanner. I think it only does one side of the page for the document feeder so you would have to do a lot of page rearranging unless it comes with software to deal with that.

    Anyway, I don’t mind taking apart the book binder if it would work in my printer.

    Since that basically destroys the book it would help take care of copyright issues. Wink The trick is firguring out a good way to cut the binding off. I tried a table saw once but it left the edge pretty ragged, which would cause problems in the sheet feeder. The easiest way I’ve tried is to take the book to an office supply store where you can pay them to do it with a big cutter. Of course, I really have a hard time destroying books but I’ve done it in some special cases.

    chocodog
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    Cool!  I had heard from Sue Patrick that you can print on both sides of the page from this feeder but I don’t know how she does it. She is more software suave on this printer than I could ever know. She makes her books with them. However, I don’t think she ever took a book apart and tried scanning it threw.  She was my inspiration to buy this particular printer. Now, I am glad I listened to her. 🙂 

        Now I have to find a office supply store that will take my books apart.  🙂  Thanks for all your help. I really appriciate it.  Now I can box them up with a gleeful heart and look into figuring all of this out…

                 You have a blessed day!

    Doug Smith
    Keymaster

    If you have a Staples store near you they have a big cutter. Most print shops should have one too and will often do cutting for a small fee.

    By the way, here is the book scanner I’d really like. Wink

    DawnD
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    My experience with PDF’s on the Kindle is that the print is really tiny. One page is one page and you can’t enlarge the print like you can with a Kindle book.

    missceegee
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    Copyright is a major issue.

    on another note, I would hate to see quality books destroyed just to make scanned copies. You might look into selling your copies and purchasing ebook versions. Simpler and the books aren’t destroyed. Especially books that are harder to come by.

    I have over 5000 books in my home and realize they can creep into every available spot, but I am not willing to part with them. They are the start of my future library! I see myself as a book rescuer of sorts.

    missceegee
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    Doug, that scanner rocks!

    Sara B.
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    Oh, please, please, PLEASE do not destroy books!  Especially out-of-print &/or hard to find ones!!!  The thought just breaks my heart.  Cry  Like TailorMade said, there are many of us out there who are trying to preserve those types of books, and some of us are really not into electronic versions and *need* those real books!  I like missceegee’s idea: Sell the real books and buy the Kindle versions.  For what you might sell it for, you may even make a “profit” by selling first and buying the e-books.

    RobinP
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    I’ve spent the last 12 years building my lending library. I’m desperately trying to preserve every living book I can. I now have over 15,000 and have room for about 5000 more in my current space. Maybe you would like to do something similar… There is such a need. Many moms are searching for the books we have. Whether you have 100 or 100,000 books, lending them to fellow homeschoolers would be a tremendous blessing.

    http://www.childrenslegacylibrary.blogspot.com

    Doug Smith
    Keymaster

    I must add that I don’t advocate destroying books either. I was just giving all the options. I have only destroyed a few in a special case, and that was with books that were in print and readily available inexpensively. I certainly would never do it with a book that had any scarcity.

    TailorMade
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    I’m at only about 1/15 of Robin’s library at this point and still in the process of repairing, labeling, and organizing/shelving. I’m hoping to open early next year. The mom’s in the area are chomping at the bit to borrow books for their homeschooling efforts. Oddly, many of these moms themselves don’t read. I’m hoping to encourage them to broaden their horizons beyond Facebook. ;0)

    If you do decide to switch gears and open your own lending library, their is an excellent resource for all things book (SCM did a fine job helping get the Honeschool Librarians Conference produced and available to those interested in this pursuit. I’ve been so blessed by the care and detail of every CD and DVD I’ve had the time to listen to/watch.

    If interested: http://www.livingbookslibrary.com/2012/11/speaking-of-libraries.html?m=1

    I can’t recommend it highly enough! It’s an awesome accomplishment and blessing to untold numbers of families to come.

    Becca<><

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