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Want To Find Replacement for: Oxford Ancient History & Famous Men of Greece/Rome
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Have any of you used something different for modules 2 & 3? I don’t really like the Famous Men books and I can’t find an Oxford book.
Help would be appreciated 🙂
I really like Helene Guerber’s books (especially as redone by Christine Miller) and we use those for our ancient history–Story of the Ancient World, Story of the Greeks, Story of the Romans.
That’s what I was looking at on the Yesterday’s Classics site. I’ll have to look at the Christine Miller versions. 🙂
Wondering….why pay for her version if it’s free on the Baldwin Project? Is there something in her version that is different?
Amanda, the Oxford book can also be found as 3 individual books. The Greeks and The Romans are the titles of the two you would need for modules 2 and 3. I found them VERY inexpensively on Abebooks. Hope that helps!
I think there are a couple different ones, but the ones I have are The Greeks ISBN 019917160 and The Romans ISBN 0199171025
Amanda, about the Guerber books–the Greek and the Roman books are closest in content to what is on Baldwin. Christine added nice layout, artwork, timelines and additional reading to them. The Story of the Ancient World was published alone by Guerber as The Story of the Chosen People; it was just about the Hebrews. Christine added a lot of content on this one about other ancient civilizations, plus the timeline, reading, artwork. I’m really glad I have the complete Guerber set from Nothing New Press, I have used the added features a lot. But in a pinch you could do just fine with Greeks and Romans on Baldwin.
I wasn’t crazy about Guerber but really liked Eva March Tappan’s books. The also have titles like Story of the … Greeks, Romans etc.
Nebby
Nebby,
Can you expand on what you didn’t like about Guerber and what you did like about Tappan’s books?
Thank you so much!
Kim
Leah or anyone whi can answer…recently bought module 1. I have read all through the forum for replacements for Oxford First Ancient History. I have seen the Children’s Oxford Forst for the same price and it is not in our budget. What is the name of the third book to replace Oxford First, there is the Greek and the Roman…? Also, anyone know how to find the The Mystery of the Hieroglphs by Carol Donoughue, inexpensively? I have not been able to find it, within our budget. Any help is greatly appreciated:-)))
Kim,
It is hard to be specific about why I preferred Tappan’s to Geurber. I think it is just that her narrative style sat better with me. I enjoyed reading it more. I think maybe Tappan is a slightly higher reading level. They both cover a lot of the same material.
Nebby
JSpring, I believe the first book (that goes with module 1) is called On the Threshold of History. However, it is not as easy to find. We did module 1 last year and we did just fine without it. You can probably find replacements from the library if you want. If you do a search in this forum you should be able to find past discussions about the chapter titles that go with the lessons in module 1. That should help you with finding replacements. As for Mystery of the Hieroglyphs, I was able to find that a my library. Do you have easy acess to a good library or interlibrary loan?
Sorry that probably wasn’t much help, but I wanted to answer your question about the title and to encourage you that it’s not a big deal if you don’t have that book. Don’t let that stress you out!
Let me just re-post the list. I can’t find the thread. =) Use the chapter titles that correspond with the lesson to find replacement books about that subject. This covers Modules 1-3, and the Module lessons are listed to the right of the Oxford Chapter, and within each Module. Hope this helps.
MODULE 1 – Genesis thru Deuteronomy & Ancient Egypt
PART 1: On the threshold of history
Introduction – The Stone Age
Chapter 1 – First Civilizations
The climate changes
From food gathering to farming
From hunting to stock farming
Attraction of river valleys
Irrigation and flood
The rise of the leaders
Chapter 2: Sumer
The first settlers Lesson 9
The useful date palm
Nam-sha learns to read and write
Clay Bricks and Buildings
Gods and Heroes
Houses and everyday life Lesson 14/15
Conquerors and kings
Law Givers
The royal tombs at Ur
Babylon
Science in Babylon
Reading the wedge-shaped writing
Chapter 3: Egypt
Before the pyramids Lesson 20
The Discovery of metal
Building temples and pyramids Lesson 25
The oldest ship in the world Lesson 45
Cleopatra’s needle Lesson 50
Mummies and tombs Lesson 55
Akhenaten and religion Lesson 107
Tutankhamen’s tomb Lesson 124
The lost toy cupboard Lesson 129
Everyday life
The disappearing queen Lesson 134
Paper, ink, hieroglyphics Lesson 139
Chapter 4: Other early civilizations
The Indus valley
China
The Hittites
The Hebrews
The Assyrians
The Persians
The Phoenicians
Chapter 5: Pre iron age Britain
The first farmers
Skara Brae
Silbury, Avebury and Stonehenge
Bronze age barrows
The coming of the iron age
MODULE 2 – Joshua thru Malachi & Ancient Greece
PART 2: The Greeks
Note that if the lesson is listed by the actual chapter heading, the whole chapter is assigned as independent reading (with narrations) by 7-9 grade students
Chapter 6: The Minoans Lesson 5
The legend of the Minotaur
Sir Arthur Evans
The palace at Knossos
Daily Life
Religion
Bull Leaping
Michael Ventris and Linear ‘B’
Atlantis
Chapter 7: The Mycenaeans Lesson 10
Homer
The Trojan War
Heinrich Schliemann
Schliemann at Mycenae
Chapter 8: Early Greeks Lesson 105,110
Achaeans and Dorians
The emergence of cities
The early days of Athens
Chapter 9: Greek civilization Lesson 115, 120
How the cities were ruled
Solon, Cleisthenes and Pericles
Everyday Life
Other members of the family
Art and Pottery
Ships and trade
The Gods
Chapter 10: The Persian Wars Lesson 125
The Persian Empire
Persian rulers
The Battle of Marathon
Thermophylae
Salamis
Chapter 11: Pericles and the Golden Age Lesson 130, 135
The wise men of Greece
Slavery
Clothes
The Acropolis and its buildings
Greek legends
Music
A day at the theatre
The Oracles
Chapter 12: Athletics and games Lesson 140
Legend of Pelops
Olympia
The Olympic Games
Other games and pastimes
Chapter 13: The Peloponnesian wars Lesson 145
Sparta
Why the war started
Soldiers and battles
Athens is conquered
Chapter 14: Alexander the Great Lesson 150, 155
Early days
The army
Battles and sieges
Persepolis
Alexander’s last battle
Death of a conqueror
The empire is divided up
Chapter 15: Greece conquered Lesson 160
The Romans come to Greece
Greece becomes a Roman province
The Greek legacy
MODULE 3 – Matthew thru Acts & Ancient Rome
PART 3: The Romans
These are not in order of the chapters.
Chapter 16: Origins
The legend of Aeneas
The legend of Romulus and Remus
The truth behind the legends
The early kings
Sabines and Romans
The Etruscans
Horatius and the bridge
The Celts
Chapter 17: Rome and her neighbours
The Greeks
Carthage
A sea fight
Hannibal and the Punic Wars
Chapter 18: The City of Rome
What Rome may have looked like
Aqueducts Lesson 69
The baths Lesson 149
Temples
Private houses and flats
Shops
Nero’s Golden House Lesson 144
Chapter 19: Republic and empire
Why the kingdom ended
The republic and its end
The early emperors
The empire expands
The decline of the glory
Chapter 20: Daily Life
Pompeii
Food and Drink Lesson 135
Clothes Lesson 70
Education
Time and the Calendar
Painting, sculpture, drama and literature
Earning a living
Games and pastimes
Chapter 21: The state and religion
Government and the law
Religion and legends
Christianity
Slavery
Chapter 22: The arena
The amphitheatre
The Colosseum Lesson 149
Gladiators Lesson 109
The Circus Maximus Lesson 19
Chapter 23: The army Lesson 110
The citizen soldier and the legion
Uniform, weapons and tactics
Siege engines Lesson 14
Marching camps Lesson 115
The officers ` Lesson 115
Roman roads Lesson 70
Chapter 24: Barbarians at the Gate
Barbarians settle inside the frontiers
Some provinces are abandoned
Constantine, his town and the division of the empire
Alaric and the sack of Rome
More Barbarian attacks
The Byzantine Empire lasts another thousand years
POSTCRIPT: The legacy of Rome
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