Teen Boy Woes Part 2

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  • yellow daisies
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    <p style=”text-align: center;”>OHello ladies,</p>
    I am looking for some insight as I know there are so many wise mammas here. My son is almost 15 and we are having a lot of issues with his behavior. He has always been a challenging child with intense energy  and difficulty in developing friends. He has no friends his age and is obsessed with gaming and reading. He tells me that he reads because he feels like they’re his friends!!  He will steal from us to get money for game cards, etc. he hacks the computer and parental controls do not work for him. He will cheat on his studies if he can and has no remorse. When we take gaming away he does so much better in his studies but and my husband and I are trying to give him opportunities to gain self control so he doesn’t “loose it” when he’s older and has total freedom. He says he’s a believer but that he knows that to follow him fully he has to lay it down but he’s not willing. I have a 6 yr old DD and his attitude is effecting her. He’s so insecure and needy and we don’t know why. I know this seems like a lot but I’m throwing a hail merry….. we give him tons of activity, martial arts three days a week and manual labor daily at home. We’re trying to help him find friends but it’s not happening. He’s so negative and angry…. and I’m wanting some guidance and peace. Sometimes I entertain putting him in school but I know that would be a disaster. Help!!!! 😔 And how do I school him during this? He fails all tests but will narrate. Tests cause him stress and he wants to quit before he even starts. Is narration “only” ok?

    Rachel White
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    I’ve already dealt with a dd who was stealing and hacking. She was untrustworthy. She had no remorse. It ended up leading to violence in the home and it is possible he will be violent in yours. It’s hard to accept that possibility,  but you must to be clear-headed and deal straight. My opinion is you can’t school him if this doesn’t change this school year. Be ready to send him to a Christian Therapeutic Boarding School or Christian Boarding school which can handle young men like him.

    My suggestion is to get him to a Christian therapist, now: one who deals with gaming addiction and AntiSocial behavior. For the remainder of thisvyear, I would remove the games, the computer, all the time except when he has earned it via performing well on academics, respectful behavior,  and no theft. Also, make him more accountable to your husband than you. If he doesn’t have one, give him a strict schedule. Tell him you are considering sending him to a boarding school for males(start saving now) if his behavior doesn’t improve. There are consequences. It’s affecting his sibling…you can’t allow that.

    I have a list of boarding schools I can send you. Also, you can find Christian psychologists and therapists online. His therapist doesn’t have to be a Christian therapist to be successful in treating him, however.

    Be prepared to let go of your dreams of what you had had in mind and heart regarding homeschooling him in order to save him and also your family, because he is destroying the peace, causing contention, and stress.

    As for only narration, no. Oral narration isn’t enough. There may be a hidden learning disability regarding tests, so set up a complete psychological evaluation. Or is it because he’s not studying?

    My heart aches for you because I I know how you feel. My dd is in a residential treatment facility now. She has multiple diagnoses. I had to decide that she isn’t welcome back home. My dreams were killed. I’m sending her to a Christian therapeutic boarding school for girls. She will thrive there, learn, hopefully get better enough not to destroy her life as an adult, and our home is contention-free; my son can focus on his own studies now, his migraines have lessened. Her behavior contibuted to my health deteriorating, too. My dd must live in a highly structured, frequently therapeutic environment.

    Getting him to a good therapist now may prevent you from needing to send him to boarding school.

    Rachel White
    Participant

    Draw up a contract between your husband,  you, and him which lays out your expectations and what he needs to do to earn specific game time (played in your husband’s presence, so you and he can see the screen, don’t underestimate sneakiness and his trying to take advantage-stick to your guns. Do not allow him to manipulate either one of you). But only after a cooling-off period and get a psychological eval done and find a therapist now.

    Also, lock up your money. Change passwords. Lock up computers. My dd woke up during the night and stole and hacked mine. Lock everything up. You’d do it if it was prescription drug abuse. This is addiction, too.

    Rachel White
    Participant

    What gaming platform is he using with stolen money/games?

    Depending on the platform,  these particular games can be deleted. He should not be allowed to play ANY games which have been procured with stolen funds.

    yellow daisies
    Participant

    Thank you for your thoughtful response. He has ups and downs. He’ll go a while and manage his time well and then he’ll have a set back and go all out. Then it takes him time to get back on board.

    He’s not in full rebellion. He reads Christian books, goes to church and will pray with me so I know that his heart is still open. I’m trying to navigate how to school and what is reasonable with his challenges. I’ve always had to modify and I’m ok with that but it’s more challenging with a 6 yr old.

    Our doctor believes it’s due to the forceful use of forceps in his delivery and the link between behavior issues and forceps. My heart breaks for him.

    We just purchased a safe to lock things up and we have an oral agreement on expectations but I think a written agreement is a brilliant idea! The Lord keeps reminding me to walk in the light and don’t be moved. It’s so hard and venting releases some of the stress. Thank you again for sharing your experience. It’s so true that I have to release my ideas of what I think our life should look like and trust him to lead in our individual situation. It is encouraging to know your not alone.

    Brookledge
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    My heart aches for you. My older son has ADHD and Aspergers so I have experienced a little of this type of behavior. As Rachel metioned, a full neuropsychological evaluation could be very helpful to fully explore what might be going on. ADHD, Autism Spectrum, Bipolar, learning disabilities, etc., can cause behaviors like your son’s. I wouldn’t try to take away video games and provoke more anger and confrontations until he’s been professionally evaluated. Sometimes medications can really help. God Bless.

    Brookledge
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    Also, maybe ease up on the academics for the time being? Let him choose what to study and don’t give him any more tests. That may help with some of the anxiety and anger.

    Rachel White
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    If you choose not remove the games completely or in your contract, allow a game, I would at least remove/disallow the games he purchased with stolen funds. Those are the consequences. He’s not entitled to them; they don’t belong to him. He made a free will choice to steal.

    I understand what you’re saying about his outward signs of faith, but my dd had those,  too. He’s not bearing the fruit, however, as you have plainly stated.

    Brookledge mentioned some possibilities of conditions contributing to his issues and meds can be a lifesaver.  God gave human beings the creativity out of Himself, and with the minds to improve our fallen condition, both spiritually and medically to make right choices.

    But he needs the evaluations necessary to probe deeply to see if there’s something specific going on in his mind and therapy (CBT) to help him learn to manage his anger, thought processes, moods, and likely addiction.

    My son has struggled with depression as a result of his dad’s and sister’s mental illness-based behaviors. His depression affected his relationship with God. Having a therapist and being on low-dosage antidepressants helps him be more focused and over-all more able to function; including giving the stability to allow his faith to be strengthened. His goal is to get off the meds after sufficient therapy and hard work he puts into managing his thought-life, the root of feelings and actions.

    So, if your son needs meds., they may be temporary or permanent; therapy may be temporary or permanent, too. But, the best time to help him is now. I know you don’t want him to go into the adult world undiagnosed if he should be, and without the tools for self-management.

    yellow daisies
    Participant

    I’ve come to see that’s there are a lot of families that are managing sensory and behavioral difficulties with their children. It’s hard to understand unless you’ve walked in it and I’m so grateful for those willing to listen and pray.

    We’ve required him to pay us for all items stolen so he’s been working to pay everything off. You’re so right RW, he has to see consistency.

    Thank you for the reminders to be diligent in moving forward with a treatment plan. We’ve been successful in the past but fall back into old patterns and slack off. The more I take away, the more it feeds his anger. As soon as I let him know that I “see” him and the good he contributes, he is energized and wants to please us. I so easily get sucked into the negativity and want to enforce more discipline and it never works. Firm guidelines with clear consequences all while letting him be seen!! I’m reminding myself here of what works.

    My DS and I just had a calm discussion about school and testing and we’re going to make some adjustments and focus on what he knows and let him do more written narrations for a time. Time off of testing and focus on learning together. We’ll do this while focusing on getting back on tract and see how things go. ☺️

    Rachel White
    Participant

    I hope things improve for him and your family.  ☺

    Julie Cunningham
    Participant

    For what it’s worth, there is a book I have been reading (haven’t finished it) called Mother and Son by Eggrichs. I have heard it is wonderful and transformative in some of my friends relationships with their sons.https://smile.amazon.com/Mother-Son-Dr-Emerson-Eggerichs-ebook/dp/B010RBQK9Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511705622&sr=8-1&keywords=mother+and+son

     

    yellow daisies
    Participant

    Thank you Julie! I just finished the Love and Respect Conference with my husband and it was wonderful. I thought about doing the Mother and Son but forgot about it. Things have already started to shift since we’ve been intentional about showing the love of Christ regardless of his behavior and he’s responding better…. just being consistent.

    mommamartha
    Participant

    What insight from women in the trenches!  My 16 yo son sometimes feels lost because I simply have to be shared and so does my husband.  We have this selfish nature and with it unchecked, it spirals.  When I’ve recognized I haven’t been so attentive to him, I make a conscious effort to make the next new plan with him.  Like husband challenges him to chess, I read a read aloud with him while he puts his r/c lego cars together, we play cards as a family.  These are just a few ideas.  He is much happier when I spend time with him.

    Also, maybe for Christmas he would love an r/c lego car kit.  I know little of this, but I could ask my son if you want some ideas.  Also, read the post about of early today about trusting with little and then trusting with much.. My prayers for you all just went your way.  Martha

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