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I am using Spelling Wisdom for the first time with an 11th grader. We are using book 4 two days per week. Today we did Exercise 34 and I’m finding that if I dictate more than 4-5 words at a time, she gets confused. Is this typical? Approx. how many words do you dictate at one time? I try to stop at a natural place, such as at a comma or period, but some seem too long for her.
For example, today she could easily handle….
“No more land in sight.” and “Nothing but an immense sea.”
But she was balled up with….
“doubtless those going to San Roque in search of favorable winds for doubling the Cape of Good Hope.”
Should I just stick with shorter phrases? I’m not sure what to expect.
Thanks so much in advance,
Melissa
Maybe it’s just my 50yo brain, but there’s no way I could remember that much at once while trying to spell it. Especially if this is new to her, I would stick to shorter phrases for awhile. Her capacity will grow but give her some time.
My 44yr old brain says, ” have you ever tried to recall a phone number someone has told you? The first time they told it? That is only 7 numbers. I couldn’t even do that. 🙂 Tehe he…. Ok blaming this one on old age! 🙂
My oldest boy could probably remember that phrase but he’s been using SW/dictation for quite some time, plus I think he’s an audio learner. I would have to look at that many times and have it memorized before doing dictation cause I’m extremely visual. My middle boy would have a breakdown if I gave him that much if he didn’t have it memorized, too, as he’s very visual as well.
I do have a question regarding this and can create another thread if that’s helpful, but I’ll try here first
. Do any of you have your children “memorize” the passages?? Or do your dc do that by choice?? Is it wrong to have it memorized?? As in, they aren’t really listening to you dictate but are just going by memory?? My oldest does work on the words he is unfamiliar with but I think he works on having the passage memorized, like the punctuation and the flow of the passage. He’s not an incredibly careful speller, but is becoming more attentive in that area, yeah! Anyway, just curious about our situation and if I should discourage this in my son (he’s 14).Thanks!
@Melissa – I think that is quite long and I couldn’t remember it either. =)
@my3boys -Why discourage the memory of the passage? The ones we have used seem to be those things that we want our children to remember and retain whether it is scripture, Shakespeare, historical, poetry, value-centered, etc. If he does memorize it, doesn’t that make it easier for him to memorize in other areas? I am not being antagonistic – I’m quite curious to know why we would be concerned. We learn a lot of things through memorization – math, reading, spelling, scriptures, etc, so it would seem to me that memorization would be an natural extention for him. Like when my dd hears a movie – she can quote passages the first time she watches it.
I use Spelling Wisdom with my 6th grader. I just read 6 or 7 words from the phrase and when he approaches the 4th or 5th word I read 6 or 7 more etc. That way I can quickly correct any mistakes as I watch him write the passages.
We started Spelling Wisdom in 3rd grade and I only read 3 or 4 words at a time. We have increased since then. Eventually he’ll be able to remember whole passages.
I would just go at the student’s pace. I’m sure your daughter is doing fine.
@sheraz, I guess I was thinking (haven’t thought of it before 🙂 that he isn’t necessarily giving me/it his full “attention” during the dictation because he basically has it memorized. That sounds kind of silly now that I’ve typed it out, but I was concerned that it wasn’t challenging or that he doesn’t have to really pay attention because he knows what’s coming. But, I totally get what you are saying and I tell my kids all.the.time that if it’s (whatever it is) can be memorized then the “test” will be a snap. And I mean that mostly for real tests that really matter like: driver’s license
. I hate to be unprepared. So of course I encourage preparedness in my dc. I encourage them to know their music pieces front and back, their math facts, punctuation rules, and spelling, of course, etc. Hmmm….I guess there are subject matters that are good to have memorized (easy to recall) and those that we want true, deep down, thoughts from the heart that don’t necessarily have a right or wrong answer.I’m glad I asked the question.
Thanks!
Thank you ladies….I will shorten my phrases 🙂
Blessings,
Melissa
@my3boys – My dd does the same thing. I hadn’t thought about it before (other than it being annoying that she is ahead of my dictation, lol) so thanks for posing the question.
I guess that I will ponder on this a bit, but in the end, she’s still learning something – and that something will come back later in her life. Already I’ve seen that as we read something or she is reminded of the scripture that she studied or whatever. That was why I questioned about it being a “bad” thing. I do want her to internalize those gems of “wisdom” as well as spell well. =)
Isn’t being a parent and teacher fun?? 😉
. Do any of you have your children “memorize” the passages?? Or do your dc do that by choice?? Is it wrong to have it memorized?? As in, they aren’t really listening to you dictate but are just going by memory?? My oldest does work on the words he is unfamiliar with but I think he works on having the passage memorized, like the punctuation and the flow of the passage. He’s not an incredibly careful speller, but is becoming more attentive in that area, yeah! Anyway, just curious about our situation and if I should discourage this in my son (he’s 14).
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