I have scm livingath and really like it. I have started it with my son…sort of. I am using the way of teaching from the video and a modified scope and sequence combined with clear and oral rays. I have to say I am really impressed with rays. The problems really make you think and Charlotte’s ways of explaining things are so clear! CLE is just so I don’t miss anything and so if I want more of a workbook later I have been more or less following it. I do like it also. I would say cle is more conceptual than horizons fwiw.