Topic | Moving from CC to CM and need advice!

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  • jenhorsfall
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    Hello friends 🙂

    I have a question about transitioning from Classical Conversations back to Charlotte Mason.  My son is currently in the CC Challenge A program and we are DONE.  I really don’t need to go in to details why but I need help with choosing what to do next.  He has completed two of the three years of their Essentials program.  One of the resources CC suggested to use for diving deeper into English grammar is Our Mother Tongue.  I actually own this set and see through some discussions here on the forum that some actually prefer it over AG.  My first thought was to actually change over to AG after leaving the Essentials program.  However, I’m wondering if (since my son has already done an intense grammar course) AG would really be necessary.  I do feel that my son could benefit from further grammar studies though because the Essentials program just blasts you with a firehose of information that is hard to digest at the pace given.   Does anyone here have any experience with this same type of situation?

    I also would like to know if anyone has any experience completing Henle Latin 1 on your own.  I have paid so much money for the Challenge program along with purchasing the required books that I’d like to somehow continue using them but with a CM method rather than “classical.”   My thoughts are to simply s-l-o-w… d-o-w-n… and continue with what we have.

    Any thoughts?

    Thank you so much!

    Jordan Smith
    Keymaster

    I’m sure others will weigh in with some great thoughts soon. I wanted to point you to a video Sonya did about how to switch to CM from a Classical approach. She shares some tips and a few ways you might need to change your thinking as you make the transition.

    Tamara Bell
    Moderator

    Good morning,

    I have a quick question before I (or others) offer suggestions.  🙂  I’m not familiar with CC’s terms.  What grade/age specifically is your son?

    jenhorsfall
    Participant

    Yes!  I just watched last night and it was very good.

    jenhorsfall
    Participant

    My son is 12 years old and Challenge A is approximately 7th grade.

    Tamara Bell
    Moderator

    Thanks Jenhorsfall.

    I do not have experience with Henle Latin so can’t offer suggestions concerning it.

    Because your son has had intense grammar, I’d be inclined to drop grammar for now and pick up a refresher year in high school.  In the meantime I would utilize studied dictation, a Book of Mottoes, oral narrations, written narrations, excellent literature books, poetry, and Shakespeare for his language arts studies.

    HollyS
    Participant

    This is a classical resource, but Memoria Press has wonderful guides for going through Henle.  I have used these for myself and it breaks it down into nice daily lessons.  You could go at a slower pace, since he has many years left of school.

    I feel like I’ve learned more grammar from Henle than anywhere else.  I agree with Tamara that he will probably be fine taking a break, especially if you are continuing Latin.  My older ones are using SCM’s Using Language Well alongside Spelling Wisdom and there is a bit of grammar included there.  They have two weekly passages and Level 3 has them parse some of it, which makes for a great grammar review!  It takes us about 15 minutes twice a week.

    jenhorsfall
    Participant

    HollyS I do have the MP Henle 1 guide!  I’ve only had time to use it as an answer key due to CC’s fast pace.  It is a wonderful resource!  I also purchased the MP vocal cards to go with it.

    Ann McNeal
    Participant

    Hello!

    I am also transitioning from CC to CM. My child is 9 and would be a 3rd grade student. This is our first year of homeschooling. He was a straight A student in public school, but becoming stagnant.

    I am finding that CC doesn’t fit his learning style. It seems to be too much facts and memorization only, at a fast pace. I don’t see true comprehension taking place. Is anyone familiar with Cycle 2 Foundations with CC, that could recommend what history book with CM that would be a good beginning at his age level?

    Also, do CM individual studies books offer enough curriculum for math and language? Or do I need to supplement? Recommendations would be welcome!

    Tamara Bell
    Moderator

    Hi Ann,

    I am not familiar with cycle 2 so I cannot speak to that question.

    The Individual Studies is a schedule for you, not the actual curriculum.  We have suggestions for what resources to use but ultimately you are given the freedom to use the resources you have on hand or prefer.  🙂

    Language Arts in a CM education looks incredibly different from traditional or traditional classical education.  It is spread throughout all subjects.  Children begin formal grammar and writing later.  Oral narrations (compositions) are required and once a student is able to give good narrations consistently, he begins to write narrations.  Our 9-part series, Language Arts in the Charlotte Mason Method, is an excellent place to begin immersing yourself into the way Charlotte taught/integrated what we call language arts.

    MissusLeata
    Participant

    Cycle 2 starts right around the of Charlamagne, so you could use the Middle Ages SCM guide with it.

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