Math reading?

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  • Misty
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    Ok.. so I know we’ve done this I have asked this but with this new information I wanted some more input.  Also, there are a lot of new names here and maybe they know something new.

    My son is 11 in 5th grade but still struggling to learn his multiplication facts. Also, I have new information.  My child in question just completed his Peabody test and in math he got a 4.2(that’s grade 4 month 2) so really that’s not bad considering we haven’t moved on in over 1 1/2 years. Which made me feel ok about us just taking out time.  But his reading comprehension is an 11.3 yes that’s right and she double checked this.

    So with that said maybe I need to figure out a way to teach his math using a reading comprehension idea?  But how do I do that?

     Here’s what he’s doing now for his math daily (yes daily) He’s getting better with the new system we’ve set up which is this: 4 times a day for 10 minutes each (6 days a week) he does one of these things geared toward what he’s trying to learn (say 3’s this week): watches a video on the number, listens to a CD, does those key things, the pop up square thing, flashcards, worksheets & reads the problem answer, and learns the multiple’s (3,6,9,12 etc) forward adn back.  That said he only now has 0, 1, 2 5, 10 (down to a science) 3 & 4 95% of the time.

    I’ve heard of Life of Fred, does this cover the “times tables”?  Where would I get this?  Is there something like this?  Just thought with this new information, new people maybe something would trigger the right information.  Thanks MIsty

    Wings2fly
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    Try looking at some Rightstart math games for multiplication to add in.

    kainklan
    Member

    Misty

    the Life of Fred series begins with fractions, then decimals/percents.

    We found switching to programs that used word problems helped our child’s comprehension in math as well as she found it more relevant than computations… And really if we think about it our usage of math on an  every day basis is not done on a piece of paper filled with computations.

    Ray’s Arithmetic through the 1st 4 operations, then we switched over to Life of Fred…

    Hope this is helpful

    KK

    Rachel White
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    Life of Fred starts at Fractions, so sorry, no multiplication. However, you might take a look at books at Living Math where there are books for differnt math topics.

    Rachel

    laurap
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    We used Times Tales as a supplement http://www.timestales.com/

    Also, I had my son write times tables everyday as copy work and then after awhile I would just say today write you 3,5,8 and 12 tables…..without copying…….

    We also found it helpful to use with the flash cards, counters…..even once he knew them I had him use counters to give himself a visual of what 7 x 6 looked like…..use the counters to make 7 groups of 6

    I would also practice skip counting alot……..we used to go for walks and count out steps……okay let’s count by 3’s and every step….3,6,9,12,15,18,21 etc up to 100 or whatever you pick……

    and lastly we used math mammoth for reinforcement.

    If he is good at and enjoys reading you may do lots of word problems.  Maybe just putting the multiplication in the context of reading would help.

    Laura

    srlord
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    My son (9) is also struggling with multiplication fact retention.  My son is a kinesthetic/visual learner and has ADD so we have had to be creative.  I use a Touch math technique (the Touch program is expensive!) that I modified so we can print/make it at home.  You set up multiplication facts (say 3’s) in a bowling pin format.  On colored cardstock/paper, I have printed the numbers on one side (say 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, etc.) and the fact (3×1, etc.) on the back.  The x11 and x12 fact is on white as a “bowling ball”.  Single digits (3, 6, 9) are on yellow, double digits in twenties are on orange, double digits in thirties are on red, double digits in fourties are on light blue, double digits in fifties are on light green, etc. (you can use whatever colors you want as long as it is consistent per fact).  It is then set up:

    3    6    9    12

       15  18  21                 33

         24   27                   36

            30   

    The “bowling balls”, we usually put slightly off to the side.  I then call out a fact say, “3×8”, and my son jumps to the spot above the answer, or sometimes we toss a beanbag (as long as the pins are spread out far enough).  The jumping and tossing is really helpful for the kinesthetic part and the colored “chunks” helps with visualization.  My son has had way too many “tricks” to remember that have stressed him out trying to remember the trick to remember the fact so we are going really slow.  It is fun and has helped my son with retention greatly.  You can then do the reverese side with the fact “3×1” and call out the answer.  Card stock can get expensive but you could easily use colored copy paper or construction paper (though it is not as durable).  The actual Touch materials, have the “pins” in the bowling pin shape and the bowling ball looks like a ball, we just cut ours (however haphazardly as mom is not so good with cutting things perfectly).  Sorry for the lenghty explanation, this is really easy to set up, not so easy to explain!

    My son struggles greatly with math facts so the math story technique has not worked for us.  But some other parents I know have had great success with the City Creek Press materials http://www.citycreek.com/.  I have also heard great reviews of the Semple math program http://www.semplemath.com/ , which uses mnemonic techniques for helping children memorize facts.  The Semple program is on my wishlist!

    I am interested to hear other parents’ suggestions.  Math is our problem area, too!

    Stephanie

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