Is there a math for the non-math person?

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  • junkybird
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    Okay, my ds9 is using MUS Beta and he is struggling!  We are only on lesson 18 and he is just not getting triple digit addition.  I can’t imagine the balking that will happen when we go on to lesson 19 with quadruple numbers.  He never fully got down his addition facts, but I just felt like we HAD to move on.  And when we start double digit subtraction?  Lord bless.

    Math is just not his thing.  Is there something else I could be doing with him for math besides MUS?  Or should I just take a break and work on facts for a while?  He literally shuts down when I tell him it’s time to do math.  It CAN take him an hour to do one front and back page of MUS.

    On a side note, I feel like I can’t get on him too much because I, too, never fully got my add/sub facts down either.  BUT, my multiplication and division facts I memorized easily for some reason.  And I went all the way up to calculus and loved it, especially geometry and trig.

    Suggestions?

    missceegee
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    I suggest slowing down and mastering the facts. Everything from here on will either get easier or harder bc of it. My dd1/ struggled with facts until we used Rapid Recall from Little Giant Steps. Now she has them. Math isn’t her favorite, but she is able to do it with much more ease bc she knows her facts.

    pslively
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    Life of Fred Elementary is what I would probably do. And my advice would be to never feel that you need to move on in math. If they haven’t mastered it, keep working on it or take a break for a bit, but don’t move on. It is better to be “behind” than to be struggling through.

    I have never used MUS, so you can take my comments with a grain of salt.

    TailorMade
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    Most of my children didn’t begin formal textbook math until 10 years old. We do manipulative/real life type practice up ’til then. That solidifies concepts before the abstract paperwork is added. We also work on fact memorization. Don’t stress over being “behind.” You cannot push ahead (or, skip levels) without actually ending up more frustrated.

    My suggestion: Pull off of the book study and continue working on the groundwork through manipulatives. Follow the quick/simple facts practice ideas that were shared in the recent thread about the CM conference held in FL last week. Read every math post/blog Richelle has ever shared! 🙂 Relax and rest assured that this will pass. As soon as it makes sense, he will be off and running again until the next time he needs to mull over a concept.

    Blessings,

    Becca<><

    apsews
    Member

    Try Math Mammoth. My ds11 hated math and was failing math in ps. I started him on the blue books at 2A and he is loving it and it is finally making sense to him. Maria teaches math the way I learned it and it works better and makes more sense than the way math is taught now.

    crazy4boys
    Participant

    TailorMade…do you know which post that was – the one that described the quick/simple facts practice ideas?  I’ve searched through the past weeks but my tired eyes can’t seem to find it.  And boy could we use it!!!!

    apsews
    Member

    Also, the way Math Mammoth teaches addition facts, they can give the answer quick without having to memorize them. My ds doesn’t memorize facts easily.

    TailorMade
    Participant

    Sorry. It took a while. I had to think of what else was in the post and searched for “Spanish.” 🙂

    Here’s the thread link:

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/sharing-our-year#post-121140

    This is the description to which I was referring…Thanks, Lindsay!!!

    “nerakr,

    I’ll tell you what Sonya did at the conference. We had a CM-Style Morning of Studies where the moms became the students and Sonya was the homeschooling momma. We started with a natural history (science) reading from Clare Walker Leslie’s nature journal and noted what we learned from her studies and then discussed our thoughts as a group. Then we moved several word problems that involved long division. As soon as we finished that, Sonya had written the 7s multiplacation table on the white board, like this:

    7×1=

    7×2=

    7×3= and so on

    She pointed at random to each fact, and we all recited the problem with the answer in unison. 

    Next was a discussion from a sample Book of Centuries, followed immediately by a passage about Alexander the Great from Plutarch’s Lives. We were required to do a written narration of the passage after reading it. We discussed our written narrations (and how humbling it was because now we could all sympathize with the difficulty we expect from our children!). Following that history reading and written narration, we did 10 minutes of cursive copywork, and then finished our morning with a Spanish lesson.

    I loved the incorporation of a quick review of math facts because it adds interest and variety to the day, uses a different part of the brain, breaks up subjects, and accomplishes a simple,  yet important, purpose. I enjoyed it so much and found it could be so useful in our homeschool that I am adding it in for next year.

    Sorry for the long explanation…I felt it necessary!”

    Richelle’s blog:

    http://www.barefootvoyage.blogspot.com/?m=1

    She’s written this SCM resource. It may be encouraging in your situation.  

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/store/mathematics-an-instrument-for-living-teaching/

    HTH,

    Becca<><

    ServingwithJoy
    Participant

    Teaching Textbooks and lots of practice…that is how my entire family of non-mathy, booky kids have learned to love math. You can see lots of samples on thier website and see if it is something that looks like a good fit for your little guy – my kids absolutely love it.

    But I agree on the math facts – he needs to slow down and get those through drill and practice, drill and practice. Math at that level isn’t an optional life skill – it is necessary. And as someone who has tried hard to avoid all the math I could, all my life, I ought to know!

    Blessings and I hope this a phase that he gets through soon :).

    Wings2fly
    Participant

    I would set aside the books and play math games like RS math card games to learn the facts. RS went right to 4 digit addition after learning place value and side two of the AL abacus. I admit that I had my own ah ha moment when teaching it and seeing it worked on the abacus. “So that’s what happens when we carry the one! Ah ha!” Does he have a good understanding of place value?

    crazy4boys
    Participant

    Thanks for finding that, Becca!  And for the other thoughts as well.

    pliant6
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    junkybird
    Participant

    Thanks so much ladies.  I have a lot to look into and decide about.  I appreciate all your thoughts.

    Jenn

    junkybird
    Participant

    I just wanted to give an update on what we decided to do. We went with Life of Fred and he LOVES it! He is speeding through the books and I just ordered the second set. We are also doing Teaching Textbooks and he, well I can’t say he loves it, but he does it. Without complaints. The two of those combined have taken the pressure off of me and we have a much happier house now 🙂 He is actually liking math these days and I know he is LEARNING!

    Jenn

    Misty
    Participant

    Way to go momma! Glad to hear things are getting better!

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