Homeschooling Q&A: Abandoning the other kids?

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  • Doug Smith
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    It’s been a while since we’ve posted a homeschooling Q&A so it’s time for another installment.

    For our newer readers, we collected a series of the most common questions and criticisms that we hear as homeschoolers. We’ve been posting those questions one at a time and inviting everyone give their best answers so we can all use them as a reference. You can find the whole series of questions and answers so far at Homeschool Questions and Answers.

    The question for this time: Isn’t homeschooling a selfish act that abandons the other kids in the system? Here is one way is was put:

    Taking a child out of an educational system which is in obvious disarray may be fine for that one student, but it does nothing to improve the situation for all of the other children who are left in school. Isn’t homeschooling then, an ungenerous act because those parents who choose it are shirking their duty to the other families who stay in the system, and if middle and upper class parents leave the school, this removes active and concerned parents who might otherwise fight for needed improvements?

    Many of us have probably heard the missionary angle too:

    Shouldn’t we put our kids in public school to be the “salt and light” to the other children and teachers.

    Back in May, there was even an article about this very topic in the Orlando Sentinel titled “Home-schoolers, don’t quit system”. It seems the article has been pulled from any online sources. There is a variation on the author’s blog at http://writer4rent.blogspot.com/2009/05/home-school-epidemic.html and the letters to the editor remain at: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-edpletters-home-school-060109060109jun01,0,6684561.story

    Enough introduction. Let’s hear your best answers.

    Wow, I don’t even know where to begin. I didn’t know there was a duty to get shirked by my leaving the system–or never entering it as in our case. It seems that this argument toward homeschoolers would not carry any more weight than targeting parents who move to get into a better school system or pay for private school. If a system is failing and parents are pulling children for any reason then the burden falls on those who caused the problem, not on those who choose to leave it.

    Is the article trying to make the point that poor people have no way of improving the system if “abandoned” by the middle and upper class? There are copious FREE resources available with many high quality books like http://www.mainlesson.com and Gutenberg that could provide even the poorest of children with a solid education. Even math can be incredibly inexpensive when using old, but reliable texts like Strayer-Upton Pracitcal Arithmetic ($14 a book for 2 years instruction). And what about the billions spent for public education? There is absolutely NO excuse for that when “free” can accomplish more than they can with billions. Waste and union activities leading to more waste is what brings the poor children their problems, NOT lack of money, resources, or homeschoolers abandoning the system.

    If teachers were taught how to use the CM method in school there would be far less homework and a lot more education. Children could hear and read great literature, history, and science books and be accountable for attention and narration. They could be exposed to beautiful art, music, and poetry and it would save teachers hundreds of hours a year in correcting stacks of workbooks!

    Can you imagine the money saved by having kids done with their formal education by noon with hours to play outdoors amd explore nature?

    The whole concept of education needs to be re-evaluated if we are going to get to the heart of the matter. Pointing the finger at homeschoolers only shines the high beam on the problems that made them leave in the first place.

    CindyS
    Participant

    My response to the ‘ungenerous act’ would have to be that each parent is responsible for their own children and, while I sympathize with others, I must make decisions based on that fact. The argument you put forth is socialist in nature in that if some are suffering, all must suffer and none are allowed to rise above. (This was luminous to me in your example as we look at the way our country is headed recently – oops political comment!)

    As for the salt and light, well children are not able to be salt and light before they are strengthened in the home. What is that example of the small tree I’ve heard before? Nor would I put my child out on the mission field alone; which is essentially where they would be. I can go on and on with this one, but I’ll let others chime in here.

    Blessings,

    Cindy

    Esby
    Member

    A rather disjointed response from me (this is a tough question!):

    My duty as a parent is first to my own children. Period.

    I live in a densely populated city and classroom crowding is a chronic problem. I mention to people who question me that there are two extra spaces in the school because my kids aren’t there. I pay taxes and get no “direct” benefit from the local school (though I do think we all benefit from good schools and should pay for them).

    As Americans, homeschooling exemplifies the freedom we have. I’m surprised at how strongly people push for the conformity of public schools. Where is the independent spirit we supposedly prize in our country? And don’t we value innovation? Why the pressure toward the huge bureacracy of public education…when it doesn’t work for most people? The American spirit is to look to yourself to improve a situation, and homeschoolers do just that.

    As for mission work, perhaps I do that subtly by taking a stand against a school system I don’t approve of. Maybe that’s a stretch? I do know people who were hesitant about public schools and who gained confidence to leave the schools after meeting other homeschoolers. I myself decided to homeschool after meeting a homeschooling mom and seeing the wholesome way her family lived. The way we live and parent is a light for others, and the decision we make to keep our children out of the public school speaks loudly to those willing to listen.

    I can’t help but think of the “pearls before swine” verse when I think of trying to improve the school system. I don’t think I would make a dent at all in improving the school system if my kids attended public school. The only way the system is going to get fixed, imo, is if more people leave it.

    the9clarks
    Participant

    Q1: I’m not responsible for anyone else’s kids but my own.

    Q2: Jesus began his ministry at age 30, not 6 (Luke 3:23).

    CindyS
    Participant

    I love that, Ginger!!

    CJKJ
    Participant

    Well, this response will be a little different from the ones already posted here. I have been reading the book “When Children Love to Learn” by Elaine Cooper. Susan Schaeffer Macaulay wrote a chapter entitled Broader Application of Charlotte Mason’s Teaching Principles. In reading this I have had a subtle shift in my thinking.

    In the section titled “Outreach”, Susan writes, “we must not, may not, ignore the plight of all the others in our communities. The PNEU ideas and insights are just exactly what they need. Perhaps no one has built a successful relationship with them before, and/or perhaps the world around them is a blur. Can their lives be reshaped? Simple measures such as homelike food, eating routines, personal warmth, caring attitudes, strong clarity about right and wrong – all these are excellent and go far to accomplish that needed reshaping.

    ….Marion Berry took such children into her home and garden to teach and introduce them to elements of a rich curriculum that seemed right for them.

    …If we will not take over an entire school, or even a classroom, we could do something along the lines Marion Berry writes about – after school activities in a home-like environment?”

    Ok, so the reason why this struck a chord with me is that we have one neighbor girl who I have been struggling with how to deal with her. She is a few years older than my oldest daughter. She has a sweet attitude and disposition, but she come from a completely different family life and has different ideals.

    As an example, I read the book “My Father’s Dragon” to my daughter and when she told this girl, she pulled out her Dragonology books to show my daughter. Anyway, I have been trying to think of how to limit this friendship (that we have allowed) just because I’m not sure what she’ll expose my daughter to. I thought, why not include her in some of our studies? We could do our read-alouds and discussions and help to show her a more excellent way.

    Anyway, my point is, I’m sure that you have some natural relationships that are already around you that could be enhanced by sharing our ideals with them. Not in any contrived way or by setting up programs, but just as opportunities present themselves – in a fluid, organic way.

    I don’t think we must “stay in the system” – I have not wanted my children to attend public school ever since I went there, but I also see the danger of separating ourselves entirely from the world where we have no influence to help others.

    CindyS
    Participant

    I totally agree. I do not think any of us were thinking about not ministering. It’s a whole different ballgame when you can invite others into your home and affect lives; especially young lives. It’s the putting our own children into their environment that we cannot do.

    Those of us that do or used to live in neighborhoods know that feeling of ‘how do we limit this friendship’. It’s difficult because the fact that we welcome the other child into our home but do not reciprocate becomes clear very quickly (and the ‘why’ of that is perfectly explained in your Dragonology example). I, unfortunately, when I was the perfect parent (pre-humbling, if you get my meaning) put off a particular family and was never able to regain the ground for the Lord that He laid right at my feet. It is good for me to remember that.

    As busy moms, we can also easily feel like we should be looking for opportunities to serve, but that is at odds with the amount of time we have. The way I have reconciled that dilemma is to just keep my eyes open for the opportunities that God brings our way. And I do agree that it needs to be facilitated as bringing them alongside our family, not just sending them out to play. Projects are great for that. The example of Marion Berry you gave brings to mind such a lovely picture. Thank you for your thoughts; they are inspiring.

    Blessings,

    Cindy

    Mamasong
    Member

    This can be a tough one because at first glance it does seem like such an ungenerous act.  I can see the reasoning behind such an argument and I agree with everyone else here who has stated that as parents our responsibility is ultimately to our own children as God has given them to us.  In the same breath, however, I see a great need to be beacons of sanity to a world gone mad, a city on a hill that is easily seen from the darkened distance.  When folks run to this argument I like to point out the fundamental flaws of the established system of institutionalized schooling.  I bring up the work of folks like John Taylor Gatto and Charlotte Iserbyt as a spring board into the subject of cumpulsory schooling.  This is usually quite an eye opener and people end up getting a history lesson that leaves them at a loss for words!  Woodrow Wilson, when he was president of Princeton University in an address to the New York City School Teachers Association stated, ” We want one class of persons to have a liberal education, and we want another class of persons, a very much larger class of necessity in every society, to forgo the privilege of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks.”  This is one of the fundamental purposes of public schooling so unless the heart of the issue is addressed, I see no good reason to sacrifice my children’s hearts and minds for the sake of reforming a system that consistently refuses to look at the most basic factors of the dilemma.  Bloom’s Taxonomy, an essential educational doctrine when many of us were being ‘schooled’, has a core purpose ” to change the thoughts, feelings and actions of students.”  This stands in stark contrast to the values that many of us are trying to instill in our children, and many teachers feel it is their duty, even their right to challenge those values!  I LOVE the fact that Charlotte Mason championed giving even the poorest child a liberal education, it pretty much flies in the face of the philosophy of Bloom, Wilson and others like them who had/have the human power to create educational policy!  Smile Rachel

     

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