Topic | Follow up re: Real Food Course

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  • Rachel White
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    I emailed Kristen at Food Renegade w/2 questions. One, what perspective, i.e. religious world view or neutral, did the course express. Secondly, what age group is the course written to. Her paraphased answers are:

    She’s a Christian and said she couldn’t write anything that contradicts her beliefs. She said she intentionally wrote it as intentionally neutral so she wouldn’t alienate anyone who is interested; so that is good news. So many back to basic materials   (regarding real food/gardening and especially herbal usage) are written from a disinctly pagan/New Age worldview, so I was pleased to hear that she hasn’t created one of those.

    Second question was about the target age of the “curricula”. She said the one now is for ages 12-18. However, in July she will make available a children’s version, ages 3-8,  w/coloring pages and activities. She recommended for those children in the mid-range, to use the first version, just  that they may require help with concepts they may not have covered yet (I’m thinking math in the kitchen type stuff, but you can ask her) and/or vocabulary not covered yet (not our CM childrenWink).

    She was very gracious  and quick on answering my questions and I highly recommend if you have some more of your own, to contact her. On the ‘contact’ page she spells out the @ and the . part of her email, BTW to prevent spamming; it took me a few minutes to figure it outEmbarassed

    HTH,

    Rachel

    Gem
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    csmamma
    Participant

    Thanks Rachel. I have a dilemma and wondered if you could help me. I recently purchased Exploring Creation with Human Anatomy and noticed there is a chapter and activities on the “Food Guide Pyramid”. We both know our reservations (or rather angst) over this regarding healthy nutrition for our families. So, would you recommend I skip this section or teach this along side the “real food course”? What I’m afraid of is in going through ECWA that the FGP will be regarded as truth….argh….Undecided

    Rachel White
    Participant

    Good question, I’ll have the same situation to deal with; I’ll check back in after I think about (and have my nap!)  However, could clarify your last sentence?

    I understand the “argh” part Laughing, but which one did you mean that would be regarded as truth? The ECWA or FGP? I think I know what you mean; I think it was just the way you phrased the sentence that threw me, so in my tired stupor could you humor me and clarify?

    Rachel

    Misty
    Participant

    I’m going to be a real dumby here.. so bear with me.  LOL

    I don’t really know the “new” food chart, so maybe that will be helpful.  I have never used it or thought it to be of any really importance because I just believe that we should all eat as much of the food God has given us and use little of the store processed foods.

    Now CSM.. is this ECWA the new one by Jeannie Fulbright you are referring to or anohter one?  If so which is what we’re going to be needing to get in the next 6 months is the chapter on the pyramid lengthy or just short?  Could you read and skip per say or does the rest of the books base it’s idea’s on that chapter?

    Also, this real food course.  I am assuming the website is the one Gem listed above (haven’t looked sorry, also this is where the dumb question comes) what is the difference between the two?  Because I don’t know what the “new” pyramid looks like and this course are could  you sum it up for me?

    Thanks. I’m sure I’ll have more questions but that’s all for now I’m tired and need a rest.

    Misty

    csmamma
    Participant

    I’m feeling rather sheepish now, as I look back at my last sentence – very confusing and grammatically incorrect; Sorry Rachel. To clarify most of that which is taught in Exploring Creation with Anatomy IS regarded as truth – biblically and scientifically speaking. However, when we get to the Food Guide Pyramid section, I need to cleary discuss that this is NOT truth (that it may not be true concerning what is best for our bodies). I hope that makes sense.

    Yes, Misty, its the new book by Jeannie I’m referring to. In skimming through, it doesn’t appear the rest of it is based on the Food Guide Pyramid. However, there seems to be a bit on it followed by an activity in which you make your own menu & go shopping according to the FGP. Maybe I’m making too big a deal out of it. I like your idea of possibly skipping over that section. I’ll look at the book further tonight and let you know how easy or difficult it may be. 

     

     

    Gem
    Participant

    Hi all – the link I posted is to the course referred to by Rachel in the thread heading – I was interested in it and looked it up, and shared the link to make it easier for anyone else to see the material as well.  It looks like a good course to me – esp. for states that require health as a topic.

    Rachel White
    Participant

    Thanks Gem for reposting the link and yes, I agree with you.

    Misty, every 5 years, the Gov’t. redoes the Food Pyramid chart; the 2010 one is coming but there has already been releases to it’s content. Here are some parts from the “commitee” about it from a gov’t. website: As mandated by Congress in Public Law 101-445, Section 301, the National Nutrition Monitoring and Related Research Act of 1990, the Dietary Guidelines for Americans are developed and released jointly by USDA and HHS (health and human services)  every five years, to assure the public (since we’re so frail, ignorant, and in need of their help) that they receive the most current and scientifically sound nutrition advice available. USDA and HHS will consider the recommendations of the Committee’s report in preparing the Federal policy document, which is called the Dietary Guidelines for Americans. All Federal dietary guidance for the public is required to be consistent with the Dietary Guidelines for Americans… the Guidelines serve as the basis for nutrition educators and health professionals to communicate to the public about healthy eating and physical activity, and they inform the development of messages, tools, and programs targeted to consumers. They are the cornerstone upon which all Federal nutrition policy, education, and food assistance programs are based. Guidelines policy document is due for release to the public by December 2010. A consumer-focused outreach campaign to broadly publicize Guidelines -related educational materials is being planned for Spring 2011.

    I thought I would post that to show the far reaching effects of what the pyramid shows. They continue to recommend an American diet that is making this country sickly; highly processed milk products and estrogen enhancing, thyroid disruptive soy products, and still promoting harmful vegetable oils full of rancid fat and polyunsaturated fats. They are intensely going after herbalists right now, while protecting GM foods and hybrid seeds, and keeping us from knowing about it if you purchase from the store! Our local herbalist can’t grow or sell some things anymore because of the nanny state determining that what G-d designed is bad for you and man’s new creations over the past several decades is superior. Sally Fallon gave an excellent response to the pre-releases of the new pyramid (I will state now that I part with Weston Price and some other traditional foodists, being in the Jordan Rubin Camp, in that I follow G-d’s Original Food design and Commands in Scripture, not eating certain types of seafood, pork, animals w/paws or things with blood, i.e. raw meats). But here is her great, scientific response to the gov’t.:http://www.foodrenegade.com/proposed-2010-usda-dietary-guidelines/

    I agree, I never really paid alot of attn. to the pyramid anyway, G-d’s Design is very simple, just more time consuming since it’s not always “convenient”, requiring preparation, not processing; but the pyramid  is what is propagandized throughout this country everywhere and we have to deal with it boldly and with facts in our teaching, just like the Creation/Evolution debate, feminism v/s G-dly womanhood, etc…. As for the old pyramid this is what it looks like: http://www.mypyramid.gov/downloads/MiniPoster.pdf  so that is probably what is in the ECWA.

    Checkin’ back with you in a little bit on your question to me, CSM (sounds like a code word!Wink)

    Rachel

    p.s. we know how well all the other gov’t. recommendations work for things like education and spending!Yell

    Psalm 100
    Member

    Thank you, Rachel, for “going the extra mile” for me and asking about her world view and how it affects her writing. I really appreciated it and your quick response to my PM!  Smile 

    Many Blessings!

    ~M~

     

     

    Misty
    Participant

    This is awesome!  I am wondering how long would you say this study would take?  I’m thinking if we did it as a family?  Also, I like that there is a book for the younger crowd and the older ones.  This is going to be on my wish list and I’ll be sending it to others I think would really  like it.   Thanks Rachel.  Misty

    my3boys
    Participant

    Very interesting.  I read through the sample chapter and this sounds like such a great resource.  Thank you to all who posted:)

    I did follow the link she has for the Chaffin Family Farm to check out their olive oil, but it’s too pricey for us, even with the free shipping, but…since we live in California I thought I’d browse their site and it looks like they are about 2 hours away from us.  They do give tours/field trips, which would be a nice drive and great for our kids, so that’s something to think about.  We do have more local farms, but their’s looks great, so we’ll see.  Anyway, since we live in Ca. we do have fruit stands galore and right now we have a farmer’s market every Thursday evening that lasts for about 3 months. I haven’t been able to make it over there, so…tonight while the kids are at various places my husband and are going to go and hopefully find some good food:) 

    Neither my husband or myself grew up in health conscious homes so I can’t say we are the best examples to our kids, but we try.  We have started a garden and that’s big for us…we live in town and can’t have a farm, obviously, but I have been inspired by this thread (and another on the topic of health/nutrition) to try harder than I have been.  Thanks ladies, you are the best.

    Rachel White
    Participant

    Iamasahm -I don’t know how long it will take to get through, time wise.

    My3boys-I created another post about ways to find sources for local/real foods; you may have even more options than you think and closer to you. I know in California, there is a raw milk distributer called Organic Pastures. YOu’ll have to check for prices and shipping (if necessary where you live). But I will say, that their price for pasture fed, organic ground beef is excellent. http://www.organicpastures.com/index.html  Also, you may find org. Olive oil cheaper through a co-op or other locations in California. I buy mine through my co-op, but use it only for making dressings and Italian dishes; otherwise I use coconut oil; so my org. olive oil lasts a long time, it’s not really meant for high heat cooking anyway.

    You may have another farm to choose from besides them but I they are well known and well respected. To give you a perspective on cost, I pay $7 gallon, I get 6-7 gall. about every 5/6 weeks of whole milk. I make many things from just one gallon and I drive 45 min. to get it 1x a month (I freeze the rest). Organic, homogenized and pastuerized (dead) milk is almost $6.oo a gallon and I can’t make butter, buttermilk, or sour the milk for baking, make curds/whey (for soaking and other uses), yogurt without the harmful effects of the previous processing, cream cheese and whey or kefir without the aforesaid harmful sid effect of the previous processing. So the price more than makes up for itself.

    SO congrats on the garden! Here’s a good article abot asking questions at the farmer’s market (I’m posting it on the other post, too) and I hope you can find some good, soy free eggs too. It’s awesome the direction ya’ll are going in! I excited, my next endeavor is lime soaked and yogurt soaked polenta casserole for tomorrow’s brkfast and my next project (besides my garden preserving) is to learn to make sourdough, canning soaked/parboiled dry beans (cheaper and healthier than buying canned) and continue trying to get Kombucha right. I’m going to buy the sourdough starter first before I start my own. Each year is different and skills grow upon themselves. I try to make goals and take it a couple of steps at a time. My biggest challenge is always what to make with food I’ve never used before when eating seasonally!Yell But, in the end, I think it’s worth it.

    http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2010/07/01/10-questions-to-ask-your-farmer/

    Rachel

     

    my3boys
    Participant

    Rachel,

    Thank you and thank you, again, for the tips.  I plan to check it all out.  I’m very interested in the lesson book for nutrition…hmmm….

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