Tagged: 

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 31 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • LindseyD
    Participant

    I am surprised that I am even going to bring this up because I didn’t realize until recently that it’s bugging me. I am concerned about me fitting in with my peers. There. I’ve said it. I’m not talking about “fitting in” like being popular or anything like that; I’m talking about similar interests, conversation, etc. I find it more and more difficult to get together with church friends or ladies in general because everything they talk about and everything I talk about is different. My life is comprised of homeschooling, homemaking, habit-training. Many of my friends are homemakers, but even what they do during the day is night and day different from my life. During “girls’ nights out”, I find myself lost in a conversation because women are talking about their children’s schools and teachers or the latest happenings on a particular TV show, and I feel left out. I have nothing to say, and I know they’re not interested in the day-to-day events of a homeschool. I don’t blame them for their lifestyles, and I’m not going to start watching TV just to have something to discuss with my friends. And, we can only talk about recipes for so long.

    I don’t have a homeschool “support group” outside of this forum. I don’t know one family in my town who homeschools, and most people I talk to have never even heard of CM. I don’t mind being different (in fact, I kind of like it), but I am beginning to feel socially lost. I do have some great friends and a great church family. I enjoy getting together with them, and I know they don’t purposefully exclude me in conversation. 

    I was just wondering if any of you have experienced similar situations, and if you have, how do you handle them? What other things do you talk about with women (that don’t involve gossip)?

    Lost in translation,

    LindseyD.

    JennyV
    Member

    I  have the same problem, but fortunately I have a wonderful homeschool support group in the Dallas area through PEACH (Plano Educational Association of Christian Homeschoolers). These are my best friends. I am sorry you are feeling isolated. I may be in the same situation soon. My husband is wanting to move to a more rural setting. Hope  you find some helpful advice here!

    with much love and empathy,

    Jenny

    Cindie2dds
    Member

    Well, Lindsey, I am in the same boat.  That’s probably why I’m here so much.  I have a local home school group, but we don’t have anything in common.  They all use Abeka or Sonlight and have never heard of CM.  Same thing with the TV.  There is a mom’s night out for home school moms, but they all watch tv at night and I don’t.  My husband and I look on the internet for something together, but it’s usually science or math related, which, again is something they won’t talk about either.  I am a vegan trying to grow my own food and eventually live off the grid (I grew an extra head when I admitted this).  Anyway, I just wanted to give you a {hug} and tell you I understand. 

    LindseyD
    Participant

    Jenny, we too would eventually like to live in a more rural setting. I grew up on a horse ranch, and would love to give my children a similar rural upbringing. It was so simple and so free; I wouldn’t trade it for the world. I didn’t have many friends growing up, and I think it was because I was so content to roam about in our pastures, ride horses, and my parents taught me how to work hard from a young age. I almost envy you being able to get your children out of the city! Tongue out

     

    Cindie, I think that’s awesome that you want to live off the grid. Why would anyone think that is crazy?! We live in an apartment now, but as soon as we get a home (hopefully more in the country) you better believe I’ll be growing a huge garden! Thanks for the understanding! It helps to know I’m not alone. Wink

     

    art
    Participant

    Lindsey,

    Sometimes I feel the same way, but I keep going. When I get together with ladies from church, we do have church-related things in common. Think about all the non school things we talk about on this forum. Surely some other moms would be able to talk about those types of things. I too am the only person I know that homeschools, and I’ve never had a group. I also like being different. I just laugh inside when they talk about tv shows I’ve never heard of and would not watch in a million years-not only because of not having a tv.

    I think we can lead other moms in certain ways because of our homeschoolin. We’re learning things about our children by being with them all the time that it may take longer for other moms to figure out. Maybe we can help in areas like habit training. Of course I’ll have to figure that one out before I help anyone!

    I just try to be happy and fun even when they are talking about things that don’t pertain to me at all, and I hope I’m a good example of mothering like they frequently are to me. I also hope our family is a good example of homeschooling. 

    I just ask quesitons about whatever they are talking about. Sometimes that could be embarrassing because I’m not up on what’s going on outside my little bubble. But I don’t feel like they think I’m strange. Sometimes I feel like some of them secretly envy me for how different I am willing to be.

    Your friends might be more interested in the day to day things of homeschool than you think. Most people I talk to find it interesting even if they don’t want to do it. And most people really admire homeschooling moms. I think they think we’re superhuman–although a lot of days we feel less than human.

    Don’t give up on your group of friends, and don’t forget you’re a powerful influence for good.

    Angela

    I too have found this to be a probelm, we live in an area where our homeschool group, is textbook based, and the children are all very young.  It was not a good fit for us – my daughters have also had problems, because we have been unable to find older teens who are not in public school.  Even at church there are no homeschoolers and I have even had Christians at the church disapprove of our homeschooling!  They feel we should be out in the world spreading the Word.  Sometimes it is discouraging, but we do not let it get us down too much.  My daughters have hobbies where they meet others, though not similar ages, and I am very self sufficient – years as a military wife moving around a lot, has made it nigh impossible to have friends on a permanent basis – I have friends but we all live in different parts of the world or country – and so we use email and the phone.  It would be wonderful to have someone in this area, but I understand it is not always easy to fit in.  In many ways I don’t want to fit in, I like the fact that my daughters and I are not up on the latest tv shows, or latest must have item – and I like the fact that we school the way we do.  We are what we are – and when the opportunity arises we are very sociable, but when the social aspects of life are a bit lean, we don’t worry too much.  I love this group for that reason, here the people understand the CM approach and the eclectic way of schooling and it is a comfortable place to be.  I grew up in the country as well – and got used to being by myself or just having a couple of friends.  The notion of having lots of friends is not important to me, and the girls have their contacts around the world and each other, plus the people they know when they pursue their interests and that for now has to be enough.  So I guess a lot of us are in the same boat, and it is nice to know we are not the only ones.

    LindseyD
    Participant

    Angela, I’ve had my share of people who are, although not particularly interested, they are fascinated by hsing. I get comments all the time about how I must be a “supermom” because I’m with my children all day and because of the things we do together. I try to respond to that comment in love, knowing that there are days when I don’t want to be with my children all day, but realizing that I am fortunate to be able to have that freedom. It seems like my friends, although they wouldn’t ever say so, think our ways are a bit old-fashioned. (“Your kids are learning to sew?!” “You don’t have tv?!”) I like it that way because I like being different. Saying that you’re in a bubble is a great way of putting it. I know there are lots of non-school things to talk about, but I try not to interject my opinions in everything because I am a very opinionated person, and I don’t want to offend anyone. A lot of times, mothers will be discussing habit problems (although they don’t call it that!), and I’ll want to bring up something from CM or Laying Down The Rails, and I just feel like I’ll be looked at like I’m crazy. Embarassed

    missingtheshire, I don’t need a lot of friends. I have never been a person who thrives in lots of relationships. I prefer to have two or three deep, personal, thriving friendships, rather than 20 that I have to maintain all the time. I love this group too, but sometimes I wish I could sit down for coffee with all of you and talk things out in person!Laughing It is nice to know that we’re not alone, even if we’re hundreds or even thousands of miles apart!

    I’m loving this discussion, and it really is helping me to realize that there may not be a whole lot I can do about my social awkwardness, but at least I’m not alone in how I feel.

     

    Lindsey, how about about social differences and not social awkwardness – I think from reading these posts, we all like who we are and how we live our lives.  I hold my hand up proudly when I say I am old fashioned, I like that about myself and don’t care what others think about it.  It is comforting to know that we are not alone really and it is so nice that Sonya allows us all to be ourselves on this group and to talk about things that are not always about schooling – I appreciate her so much for that.  I imagine that on this group we run the gamut age wise, and I am probably one of the older mums, but is is nice that we can all relate and discuss and share what is on our hearts.  I love my neighbors, even though they sometimes give us funny looks because we are at home all day, and they go out to work, and I love the fact that I have the freedom to be different.  When I feel sorry for myself, I think of the families in Germany where I used to live, that cannot homeschool because it is illegal, and then I feel blessed with my lot in life.  I consider all of the ladies on here friends on a journey of discovery and I cherish you all, even though we disagree on somethings.  Vive le difference I say.

    Sharity
    Member

    I have felt the same way, too!  I just wanted to encourage you to speak up.  You said:  A lot of times, mothers will be discussing habit problems (although they don’t call it that!), and I’ll want to bring up something from CM or Laying Down The Rails, and I just feel like I’ll be looked at like I’m crazy.  I felt this way several years ago.  I got to a point though that I realized I could really be an encouragement to someone if I shared the information I had.  I took a chance and spoke up on a few occasions and got a really good response from those around me.  I don’t feel funny speaking my mind anymore.  It has actually helped us to get to know one another better.  I don’t feel so out of place anymore, because I know, whether we agree or not, I can respectfully share my mind and even be an encouragement to them.  And vice-versa. 

    Blessings!

    Sharity      

    lgeurink
    Member

    I have to say where I live there are many homeschoolers, including some of my closest friends from before we had kids (back when I was cooler than catching puke barehanded…)  We have a support group with lots of CMers but others too.  I attend a Bible study that has a homeschool class for K-5th while we are doing our study but many moms there are not homeschoolers so it is a nice balance of ideas.  I do think it sounds like you all like yourselves and are proud to be who God created you to be so bravo for that.  I know plenty of woman who cannot say the same thing-homeschoolers and not.  My idea if I found myself in your shoes would be to host some sort of gathering on your turf-partly for your comfort, partly so you could have more control over conversation and what you did for the night.  I had a bunch of homeschool moms over to watch the SCM video conference and it gave great ideas to CMers and others.  I included inviting young moms thinking about homeschooling.  You could do something completely non homeschool related like a cookie swap, sewing demonstraion, knitting how-to, scrapbooking.  I sympathize with your situation and I am proud you are being yourself without apology.  I notice on the forum here that there are many ideas and I feel others respect conflicting views so that makes this feel very safe.  I hope you can find that in your area as well.  God Bless!

    Cori
    Member

    What about a book club or a painting class or find a new hobby and go to meetings.  My husband and MIL are going to a mushroom club once a month.  I have 2 book clubs.  Then you have something in common with a group of people.

    I find that I am very different from just about everyone I know but I also have one or two things in common with each of my friends so we do have something to talk about.  When it is a bigger group, then yes they talk a lot about school, which is usually complaints and just confirms that we are not missing anything.

    I am more comfortable with being different these days.  But we all need some adult conversation so hopefully you can join a book club or take a class…

    P.S. I really want to start a CM support group in my area and I am fine tuning the wording of an email that I will send out on a local yahoo group for homeschoolers.  I need to pick a date for a first meeting, I think, before I send it out also. 

    Jodie Apple
    Participant

    Wow!  Our internet service has been down for about 4 days or so and I’ve been unable to check in here and as I was scanning through the posts this a.m. I came across this one (interestingly enough this very topic is what I thought on all weekend and have really come to a discouraged place).  But I have a bit of another layer to add and was wondering if any of you could relate.  I not only feel like I don’t fit in anywhere outside the home, but I don’t think my husband really sees the value in what I’m doing either.  The kids and I have come such a long way this past year in forming better habits and improving character qualities (ALL because of the grace of God and His help) ;  my oldest and I have worked hard at making sure our meals are nutritious and home cooked as much as possible, the kids and I have made a schedule to make sure the house is picked up and clean at the end of the day and we’ve worked on conflict resolution so there’s more peace–but I don’t think he really cares about these things.  I noticed on another thread where someone mentioned that homeschool shouldn’t come before the marriage;  does this mean if these qualities aren’t important to your husband then they shouldn’t be important to you as the wife and mom as well and just focus on what he thinks is important?  Hope this isn’t getting too personal.Embarassed

    suzukimom
    Participant

    mj…

    No, I don’t think you need to give up what you think is important even if your husband doesn’t see the importance.  However, if he was against the things you think is important and it was causing friction in your marriage, then you would need to do a lot of praying about it, and probably abide by your husband’s wishes (while praying that he would come to see your way of thinking.)

     

     

    art
    Participant

    mj,

    Maybe it just doesn’t seem to you like your husband appreciates what you’ve been doing. I mean, I think if you and the kids sat around all day arguing and the house was a disaster, he would probably dislike that. Sometimes I do something I think my husband will notice, and he doesn’t acknowledge. I think it’s a man thing. So I’ll ask and he says he appreciates it; it just doesn’t occur to him to say it. I’m sure these things make a difference to him. It sounds like your home is a pleasant place to be for everyone including him. 

    If you think of the past year, does your husband seem more relaxed or happy or satisfied than he did a year ago? Maybe that could tell you that what you do has made a difference, unless there is just something else he wants you to work on. Have your asked him what he would like you to work on in the home? Remember what you do is important even when others don’t see it.

    Take heart MJ, unless your husband is actively against what you are doing with the home and school, then keep doing what you are doing.  Men sometimes don’t notice the things that we do, it does not mean they don’t appreciate or like what we are doing.  When they have worked all day, they come home and want to relax, or do their tasks, in their hearts they are grateful for a peaceful, tidy home with nice meals on the table – do they always comment – no.  I think you are probably doing a great job, and unless he is showing signs of being really upset with you – I would not worry.  I remember early in my marriage, I thought my husband was not thinking I was doing a good job, because he never said much – so in a nice way I asked him, if he appreciated what I did with the house, meals and children – he was shocked to think I needed to ask – because he was very happy with the way I was doing things.  I mentioned that occasionally it is nice to hear it, and though even now he does not say much very often – when he does it means a great deal and I know he means it.  So don’t worry too much.  Blessings, Linda

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 31 total)
  • The topic ‘Fitting In’ is closed to new replies.