Best way to schedule for the mind?

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  • Misty
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    I know that CM says to schedule subjects to switch the use of the mind but I’m at a loss as to which ones are in the same group?  Could someoen list the subjects in groups so I know not to put them back to back in our school schedule this coming year.  Thanks, maybe this will help my kids who get stuck and fustrated easily.

    Also, what age do you let your children start scheduling there own days?  I have a 12yr old son who I’m thinking should have some input into how his day should flow, does this sounds about right?

    Thanks MIsty

    6boys1girl
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    Hey Misty,

    I too would love the answer to your first question. I took my best guess when making our schedule.

    As far as your 12 year old, he is probably old enough to set up his schedule with supervision. For my 12 and 13 year olds, I gave them a time sheet with the time required for each subject and had them place them in. So once you have the list of subjects that shouldn’t go together, you could tell him which he can’t have next to each other and then let him fill out his sheet. That has worked well with my oldest two.

    HTH, Rebecca

    missceegee
    Participant

    The idea here is to spread things out a bit – Math, followed by picture study, followed by spelling, followed by a history read aloud & narration, followed by grammar, followed by literature, etc. This way you work all parts of the brain w/o fatiguing any. I have found this to be a tremendous help in many, many ways. 

    Here is a link to my 4th grader’s schedule for this year, but note this is our starting point. I know I have a few things to tweak already and we just started last week. Here is my 1st grader’s schedule, too. 

    Blessings,

    Christie

    Sonya Shafer
    Moderator

    Think about what “mind activity” or “body activity” is being used. For example, listening or reading, narrating, looking, large motor muscles (walking), small motor muscles (like handwriting), hands-on (manipulatives or experiments). Here are some examples of the order in which Charlotte scheduled her subjects.

    Grades 1-3 on Mondays one term

    • Old Testament (listening and narrating)
    • Printing (small motor muscles)
    • Repetition: Poem (memorizing and reciting)
    • French (listening to another language)
    • Number (manipulatives; math concepts)
    • Drill or Dancing (large motor muscles; PE)
    • Reading (looking; decoding skills)
    • Natural History (listening and narrating; possibly hands-on science)

    Grades 4-6 on Mondays one term

    • Old Testament
    • Arithmetic
    • Dictation
    • Drill (Swedish Drill, PE)
    • Repetition: Poem
    • Geography
    • Writing
    • French

    Grades 7-9 on Mondays one term

    • Old Testament
    • Arithmetic
    • Dictation
    • Drill
    • Repetition: Poem
    • Geography
    • Arithmetic (Mental work this time)
    • French
    • Botany

    Yes, a twelve-year-old can start making schedule decisions. Be sure to share with him the principle of varying the order of subjects so as not to overtax any one part of the brain and body. If he starts to struggle with paying full attention, he should go do something totally opposite, then come back with “fresh wits.” It’s a valuable principle to equip him for adulthood.

    Misty
    Participant

    Ok I’m really a slow learner!  Embarassed  Could someone take the subjects in the guide and put them in “groups”.  Say all the same minded things together and so forth.  That way I would know NOT to do those back to back.  I’m such a visual learner and this has never been an issue but I’m finding it to be one with my kids.  Thanks for your patience with me and my learning! LOL Misty

    nerakr
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    I needed to be reminded of that, too! This year ds is having to write his numbers in math instead of using stickers that I would make for him. We would read or do a language activity, then on to penmanship. More days than not he didn’t want to write. Apparently the break wasn’t long enough to rest his hand! So beginning Friday (we’ll be out of the house all morning tomorrow), we’ll try penmanship mid-morning, after we’ve had the listening and play time. Maybe a good incentive to do his writing will be to follow it with a language or math game or Bible verse puzzle (he can’t play the game until he does the writing). Penmanship 3x a week should be plenty at this stage anyway from what I’m seeing from other posts.

    Karen

    Cindy K
    Member

    Yes, a twelve-year-old can start making schedule decisions. Be sure to share with him the principle of varying the order of subjects so as not to overtax any one part of the brain and body. If he starts to struggle with paying full attention, he should go do something totally opposite, then come back with “fresh wits.” It’s a valuable principle to equip him for adulthood.

    My boys have been choosing the order for subjects for 2 years now. And even though I have tried to explain to them that I have recommended an order based on these ideas so that work will be EASIER for them, they still do things their own way. I am at work when they do, so all I can do is try to teach these concepts to them (over and over!) and let them discover their own way. I think one boy still does all of the stuff he likes first and saves the stuff he doesn’t like until last! UGH!

    I too have felt the need to move a few things around.  I didn’t know there was an opinion / method for this.  It was just my gut instinct that was telling me that I needed to take a look at my schedule for next year.  I have followed the WTM, but am open for all styles of learning.  I’d like someone to take a peek and see if you could tell me how you might move things around.  Someone who is familiar with what Miss Mason suggests.

    No school before lunch.  Play together, projects, baking, dinner prep. HOME LIFE!

    Lunch at 11am

    Snuggles and Stories with Little Sis

    Electiv(-es (while I am getting the little one down) Rosetta Stone Spanish (may change to Usborne’s First 1000 Words) 30 shared min. (Tues. Thurs. (Fri. I observe)

    Electives Typing Instructor (Mon. Wed.) 15 min. each

    Handwriting / Copywork (Tues. Thurs.) 10-15 min.

    Spelling (Mon. – Thurs.) Dictation with Spelling on Tues. Thurs. Memory Work….. Spelling Rules 30 min.

    Reading (shared) Classical Literature List  (Son reads right page, daughter left, I read next two pages to model fluency) (Mon. – Fri. 30 min.)

    Grammar and Writing (Mon. – Thurs.) (60 min allowed, usually finish, but that is for two students) Memory Work….Poetry, Scripture

    Math (60 minutes) New Lesson,  Review and Memory work…..math facts….important facts (i.e. There are 12″ in 1 foot)

    History (Mon. Wed. Fri.) Fri. is for activities, map work, time line notebook, decorating their narration notebooks

    Science (Tues. Thurs.) Fri. is for nature walk, experiments

    Art (Fri.)

    Music, still trying………..but it would be on Fri.

    I use memory work “little bits in many subject to try to give the hands a rest.  Is memory work a small or large muscle working.  I know the brain is a large muscle that is being exercised here, but is it in low or high gear ?)

    I was thinking that I might need to put math earlier in the day, HOWEVER sometimes we are really spent after math.  I guess that would be a good time to have handwriting/copywork or Literature Reading follow?

    Your comments, suggestions are welcome and valued.

    April

    Misty
    Participant

    I wanted to bring this back up and see if someone who has time could use the guide here to put in groups that use the same mind so I can try to redo my schedule.  Thanks for your understanding. Misty

    I don’t know that there’s one “right” way to apply the principle, but I do think that you really need to consider how you approach the subject. For example, anything that is predominantly a “read aloud” for your kids might be in one category. HOWEVER, for some science might be largely a read-aloud subject (depending on age and curriculum choices), whereas for others it might be more hands-on doing more experiments. Same thing for Shakespeare: if you are reading aloud versus kids taking parts and moving around and acting it out more — same subject, different approach. That’s probably not the answer you want to hear! lol

    I like Sonya’s explanation above about large motor, etc. I thought maybe I could pull together a little list for you, but honestly because I don’t know HOW you are doing your subjects, it’s hard to say. For my family, over the many years of CM education that we’ve done, I’ve found that we do a lot of reading — more read alouds when they’re younger, more independent reading as they get older… but always lots of reading. SO, for me, I would try to intersperse just about anything else amidst all the reading. I think I covered all the subjects in the SCM guide below, but again, this is just how I would categorize for my family — do what works for you, and modify as you go along, if needed! 🙂

    READING:

    science, history, geography, Bible, poetry, Shakespeare, Plutarch, literature

    ** but these might often include some kind of picture narration with younger ones, so if you’re doing that then that helps provide a change of pace. If you read geography and your kids drew a picture, then it might not be a big deal to do another reading/picture.

    ARTS:

    picture study, hymn study, music study, nature notebooks

    MEMORY:

    foreign language, scripture memory, other memory work, possibly poetry if focused on memorizing

    WRITING:

    narrations (if older), copywork, dictation, spelling, grammar

    COMPUTER:

    narrations (if typing); typing; possibly foreign language but that’s not usually much actual typing, just staring at a computer screen

    MATH:

    well, math has always been in a category by itself, for us. I just always try to do something more active on at least one side of math, if not both. lol Incidentally, I would handle beginning reading the same way because of the tremendous effort it can take when they are first learning.

    OUTSIDE:

    nature study, free play for a break, going for a walk, etc.

    I don’t think you have to vary everything, but it helps to know your children (like with the math example for my family). I have a CM friend who does a lot of read alouds first thing in the morning and it works well for them — it would never work that for us. My kids wouldn’t be able to focus that long, and *I* would be falling asleep while I’m reading that much! lol  

    Cindy K
    Member

    Make 2 lists and label them “mind activities” and “body activities”, as Sonya mentioned. Then just put the activities in the column in which it belongs. Using the list she provided for Grades 4-6 Mondays:

    Mind Body

    Old Testament Arithmetic (manipulatives)

    Repetition Dictation

    Geography Drill (PE)

    Arithmetic (mental work) Writing

    French (listening to another language)

    Our subjects and the column I would put them in:

    Literature Spelling/Dictation

    History Copywork/Handwriting

    Geography Composition (written narrations)

    Science (reading, narrating) Science (labs, experiments)

    Music Study Grammar (usually involves writing)

    Picture Study PE

    Mathematics (mental work) Typing Instruction

    Mathematics (manipulatives, working problems/writing)

     

    I think this is what Sonya was saying to do. I also think it will vary a little from family to family, but hopefully this will give you a better idea to get started. 

    Cindy K
    Member

    Sorry, that didn’t come out the way I had hoped. I had tabs in there to separate the columns. Here’s my subjects in list form:

    Mind Subjects

    Literature

    History

    Geography

    Science (reading, narrating)

    Mathematics (mental work, drill)

    Music Study

    Picture Study

    Body Subjects

    Spelling/Dictation

    Copywork/Handwriting

    Composition (written narrations)

    Science (labs, experiments, projects)

    Grammar (usually involves writing)

    Mathematics (manipulatives, writing problems)

    PE

     

    HTH!

    Misty
    Participant

    Thanks everyone I will print this off, and in the next 2 weeks try and put my schedule together.. maybe I’ll post it then and see if you think I’ve managed to spit the 2 up a bit.  Thanks MIsty

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