@Mrs. K – don't keep me hanging…

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  • cherylramirez
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    What did you do for Chemistry?  I must know1  I am following your ideas about the CM style Apologia, as far as the vocab.  There are a LOT of words!

    Anonymous
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    Hi cherylramirez! For Chemistry this year, I chose Friendly Chemistry. Here’s the link:

    http://friendlychemistry.com/homepage.htm

    I am following the same approach that I did with Apologia. My daughter narrates after her reading assignment. I make the tests my self in a CM style. And I’ve added in some additional books. Also, this curriculum doesn’t have near the amount of vocabulary that Apologia typically has. Still, I pick and choose the ones for her to learn. What is a little different with Chemistry though, is that I am having my daughter memorize the elements on the periodic table.

    The books I chose to go along with the curriculum are the following:

    – “Crucibles” by Bernard Jaffe

    – “Exploring the World of Chemistry” by John Hudson Tiner

    – “The Elements: A Visual Exploration of Every Known Atom in the Universe” by Theodore Gray and Nick Mann

    With learning the elements, I’ve assigned a certain amount of elements to be learned each week. Usually it’s around three. At the beginning of the week, she makes an index card for each element she is learning that week. She puts the information from the periodic table for that element on the blank side of the card. On the side with the lines, she writes one or two things she learned about the element from her reading. That is her narration.

    I also like that this curriculum includes a number of hands on activities to help learn concepts. If you have any questions, just let me know. 🙂

    cherylramirez
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    This is wonderful information! So…a CM style test would be narration?  I have asked her to written narrations about what she learns each day.  Where do you get your test questions?  Thank you so much.  This is a neat concept and we are implementing it as I am writing!

    Anonymous
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    I think Sonya explains CM style exams very well in the following two blog posts:

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/2008/07/08/how-much-does-my-child-remember/

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/2008/07/30/end-of-term-exams-in-the-charlotte-mason-method/

    As far as where I get my test questions, I come up with open-ended questions based on what she is reading.

    For example, if a student is learning about the atom, you might ask:

    “Tell me all you know about the atom.”

    Or you might ask something more specific about an atom by saying:

    “Tell what you’ve learned about protons and neutrons.”

    For history, if we have been studying the Industrial Revolution, on the term exam I might say: “Tell me all you learned about the Industrial Revolution.” Or I might ask “What did you learn about the impact of the Industrial Revolution?”

    The key is asking open ended type questions (these are typically known as essay questions) that allows the student to demonstrate what he or she knows.

    Hope that helps!

    cherylramirez
    Participant

    You have been wonderful! Thank yu!!

    Anonymous
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    You’re very welcome!

    TailorMade
    Participant

    I don’t know if this examination information is redundant, but here’s a link to some helpful thoughts Lindafay shared about CM style exams.

    http://www.charlottemasonhelp.com/2009/07/why-do-i-give-examinations.html

     

    kerby
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    Mrs.K – where is the info on how you did the Apologia Biology?  (I’m thinking that’s what you used.) 

     

    Sue
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    My problem with the open-ended questions is that when I ask something like, “Tell me all you know about….,” I get minute answers and comments like, “I don’t remember anything about it.” Or, I get an answer with very little detail, and I am working with a 13yo & a 15yo.

    One is good at taking notes during Apologia science lessons, but she seems to only function well with multiple choice tests. The other is not good at taking notes at all, but she always asks to use her notes during tests of any kind….which is normally not allowed.

    Anonymous
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    Hi kerby,
    As I mentioned above, we do our Chemistry in a similar way as we did the Apologia. Narrate the readings, add in some living books, do CM style tests. My daughter also keeps a science notebook. For Apologia, that notebook was simply a binder with tab dividers. One year we kept the binder by categories so she had sections for vocabulary, On-Your-Own Questions, tests, labs, and notebook (the notebook section was for drawings and extra projects).  For the Biology, the binder was divided by Modules. So each tab divider was for one module and all the work for that module went in that section. Occasionally I would pick a question here and there from the study guides for her to answer to help her review the material; but pretty much I had her read a section and narrate…either oral narration or written narration (or if the sections were really short she might read a couple of sections then narrate), write out all the vocabulary for the module and put it in her binder, pick and choose what On-Your-Own questions I wanted her to answer, do labs, and do a CM style test. 

    In addition, for Biology, I added in some videos as well.

    Hope that helps! 🙂

    TailorMade
    Participant

    @Sue, have your children done very much oral narration?  I know that for a couple of mine (already graduated,) we came to narration way late.  It was like starting at the beginning and took a while for them to get the hang of it.  Sometimes, and this is most likely NOT CM, I required them to reread the material and narrate again.  After a few of these assignments, they learned that it took longer to either not pay attention, or to only give short answers to try to get out of work. 

    You might have to begin wtih narrating a page, or even a paragraph to have them begin the process. 

    kerby
    Participant

    Thank you, Mrs. K.

     

    TailorMade.  I think we would have to do the same thing.  I started asking my ds some questions about the book he’s reading.  (Free choice and just to start doing narration, w/out him even knowing.)  He needed some prompting overall but generally did start to do it.  I think w/ older dc and starting late, we may need to do what you did to help them.  It helps them “see” it. 

     

    TailorMade
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