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Has anyone seen Divided the Movie? It is a documentary about what is happening in modern youth ministry today and about age-segregation in our modern churches. Some is based on the book Already Gone and is encouraged by Vision Forum and The National Center for Integrated Churches. Just thought I’d share. You can watch it free at http://dividedthemovie.com. We thought it excellent here and very eye opening. Blessings, Heather
We watched it this past summer. It only confirmed to us that we are doing the right thing by keeping our children with us for church. We also thought it was eye-opening! I wish every parent would watch that movie.
Here is an interesting discussion about the movie and youth ministry in general from a few months ago.
http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/divided-free-movie-viewing#post-47148
I feel sheepish
– where was I when you ladies last discussed this? I must have missed the thread. We’ve always tried to keep our children with us at church. It was very encouraging for my older boys to watch the documentary, since most of their friends go to Sunday School and Youth Group. It was great for confirmation as to why we do what we do. I was very surprised to hear the history of age-segregation and it originally being founded on Darwins evolution theory. Over the past month, we’ve been visiting a Family Integrated Church about 30 miles from us. It has been an absolutely delightful experience for our family so far- similer to what Joanna mentioned on the other thread. We are praying about staying. Our children have found it a joy and my husband feels very encouraged to do what God is calling him to do (…turning the hearts of the Fathers to the children). There seems to be no judgement there but like mindedness -which has been lacking for us in other churches. Blessings to you all Ladies. Sorry for bringing this up again and for missing such a wonderful thread months back. HeatherDon’t apologize, Heather! We can’t expect ourselves to be on here, keeping track of every thread every.single.day! In fact, your post has me wanting to watch the documentary again!
Thank you so much for posting this! I have been reading Already Gone, after having finished Eddie Vochman’s book, and it’s been incredibly eye opening. I wanted DH to read them — he started as senior pastor of a small church about six months ago, and our church only has a Sunday school hour that’s segregated, but the kids currently stay for the church service itself. I want it to stay that way, and build towards a family integrated model as the church grows in size. The church board wants to do this as its always been done, and have a children’s church program that’s available to use anytime families with kids visit/start attending our church. DH has a vision to change in a way that offers a more solid foundation for the youth, but doesn’t know what that should look like. He has plenty to read for sermon prep right now, and is a slow (but consistent) reader. He said that if it was on some sort of video format, he would be open to it. I am sending him a link to this today!!
April
April, I’d love to hear what your husband thinks of the documentary. As senior pastor of this church, what a great opportunity he has! May he be filled with Gods vision for the church. Praying for wisdom and guidance for your husband……
P.S. I have a hard time with Bauchams name too, I knew what you meant
. He’s finishing his sermon today, actually. (He’s behind this week, due to supervising a youth lock-in on Sunday night and sleeping away most of Monday, not starting sermon prep until Tuesday.) Hopefully he’ll watch it next week, and I’ll let you know what he says after seeing it.
April
Hi ladies,
I’ve been folowing this thread (and the previous one) with a heavy heart. My husband is a Pastor of Youth and Families. We’ve been in Youth Ministry for 17 years. This is his/our passion and calling. There are some at our church who wish things were more family centered and choose not to participate in our youth group. Two of those families are VERY good friends of mine.
I don’t mind an honest theological discussion/debate. In fact, I kind of like them. I guess what made me sad about this thread was the feeling that the video was “obviously” right. While he brought up some interesting ideas (even helpful correctives), he used some faulty lines of argumentation as well. I won’t bore you all with our church’s philosophy on youth ministry, but I will tell you it is very intergenerational and discipleship oriented. We are committed to parental training and parents being the primary disciplers. Despite what the film indicated, I don’t think this whole idea has to boil down to an either/or scenario.
Why am I posting? Heather mentioned that she got attacked on a facebook thread when she posted a link to this video. I’m so sorry that happened. She even mentioned that she was thankful for this group because it was her “safe” place. I love the CM philosophy of education. And lets be honest, when we start down the path of bucking society’s expectations in homeschool, we tend to do it in other ways too… vacinations, organic food, modesty and a whole host of other things. Most of our discussions on those other topics are approached in a way that we expect there are people on this thread who might not agree with our bent, but we are all doing our best to follow God’s lead for our family and we trust that others are doing the same. I guess I just didn’t get that vibe in this discussion (and definitely not in the video).
Lets be vigilant for Christ… and reaching the lost… and nurturing our precious blessings… and lets encourage each other (even if we differ on methods) in the endeavor.
Blessings,
JenJen, thank you for the gracious reminder. We do want all our discussions to be covered in grace and kindness.
Please forgive me for bringing up this video again if it has caused any “heavy hearts”. My intention was only to share what I felt to be a timely message. Jen, I’m praising God with you – that your churches philosophy on youth ministry is very integrated and discipleship oriented, as well as the churches commitment to training parents to disciple their children. Blessings to you and your family.
Jen, I hesitated to ask this… but decided (in all graciousness), to go out on a limb. Would you be willing to share what you thought to be “some faulty lines of argumentation” in the film? I’m not asking to debate at all -only seeking to find truth concerning this topic. This may give us insight into things we missed, since the film was clearly biased. Thanks.
Jen,
I commend you for being salt and light to the kids within your sphere of influence. Not every child has parents who want to teach them about living a life for God. But every child He created deserves to know they have a Savior who loves them more than they can fathom, and an opportunity to respond to His invitation.
I also hope that we can arrive at a point, in the church at large, where we choose to focus on the Savior that unifies our purpose, rather than criticizing the difference in how our service to Him may play out in each of our lives.
April
– where was I when you ladies last discussed this? I must have missed the thread. We’ve always tried to keep our children with us at church. It was very encouraging for my older boys to watch the documentary, since most of their friends go to Sunday School and Youth Group. It was great for confirmation as to why we do what we do. I was very surprised to hear the history of age-segregation and it originally being founded on Darwins evolution theory. Over the past month, we’ve been visiting a Family Integrated Church about 30 miles from us. It has been an absolutely delightful experience for our family so far- similer to what Joanna mentioned on the other thread. We are praying about staying. Our children have found it a joy and my husband feels very encouraged to do what God is calling him to do (…turning the hearts of the Fathers to the children). There seems to be no judgement there but like mindedness -which has been lacking for us in other churches. Blessings to you all Ladies. Sorry for bringing this up again and for missing such a wonderful thread months back. Heather
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