Does anyone here have experience with the Accountable Kids program? I had a friend hand down her peg boards and cards to me. So far it looks good. I just wanted to see if anyone here had opinions good or bad of it. Does this work well with a CM philosophy of habit training? And if you have used it, how do you distinguish the different privileges (tickets vs. privilege passes vs. special date cards etc.).
Accountable Kids Program???(10 posts) (4 voices)
It has a book that explains all of it. I think it works well. They can see what they have to do and they just do it. I can give you a quick axplanation.
Daily chores. 3 sets of chores per day - Morning, day, night. Hang the ones you want behigned that card and let the kids know what was expected as a part of each card. (this is the stop light picture) After they are done they turn them over and put them on the finish peg. Once they finish a set (ex. morning) you give them a ticket to hang on the ticket peg. You decide what requires a ticket and how many tickets. Explain this to the kids before hand. Like 1 ticket = 30 minutes of tv or free play just whatever it is. We do it that they have to complete all the chores for that set and then they can do whatever they want until the nexrt set of chores are suppose to be done. (I hang a school card)
For each day the kids do all their chores, they get a star on their date card. For 10 stars (or whatever each family decides) the kids earn a date with Mom or Dad. It could be whatever you decide on before hand. Like going boweling or a free thing like a trip to the park just for them and you.
The last part is pay chores. You can put up cards that you are willing to pay for - and when they are done you put up a "Buck". We don't use this.
Not a part of chores - but also in the system is the Good Behavior card. It's basically an atta-boy for catching good behavior.
There's one other Privilege Card thing to help provide incentive for a specific behavior elimination, I have not used it, but basically you put it there to remind them not to do that behavior.
As a "chore" you can put up everything you want from getting dressed to dusting. Once they get the hang of what is expected form the morning, day, and night sets you no longer have to hang all the cards, just the morning, day and night cards. That is unles you change things up which we do not.
I like it because it makes them accountable for thier own chores and teaches them to have priorities. Like getting dressed before playing in the morning etc.
It might take a while to implement or it might go quickly. For us it took a while because we had company come right after. I have heard of it taking a year to get it all going from start to finish.
We are new to CM, so I don't know everythign about it yet but I think it compliments it well. I have a 7yo and 4yo that do it (my 2yo and 10 month twins are too young)
ahh, another twin mommy! I have 3yo identical boys! (I am not using this with them, just my older son).
the thing that is not so clear to me (I did get the book and have read through most of it) is the difference between all the different privilege cards (tickets, privilege pass, date card, good behavior card) and what to use them for - it seems so much can overlap - would this be something that is left up to your own discretion? It seems as if that part can be a bit tedious. I just figure if I am confused about what is for what, my 5yo probably is too (or maybe not).
I went to the website and they had some youtube videos on how to use the system. It appears to be CM friendly from what the videos explain, a very gentle way of handling the chores and accountability of the kids.
My kids have something similar they call it a "control journal" In that they have dividers, one is routines listed there is their morning routine ie: making bed, brushing teeth, clothes down the laundry shoot, eating breakfast, taking vitamines, etc. Then there is the "after school routine or afternoon routine" Home work, chores etc. The the "evening routine", showers, pj's, bookbag ready for the next day, brush teeth, etc. The next tab is Chores and that is listed by weekday. So say Monday's chore is poo scooping, feed dogs, feed cat, ets. Tuesday is gather trash for trash day, setting out recycling containers and garbage cans. Wed is bring the cans back et. They even have a place that if they earn money they keep track of it in the back of the book and if they need or want anything they bring me the paper to show how much they have and I will give them cash for that. It helps my kids stay on task :) BTW that is a flylady.net thing, I have one for me too :)
The other thing we have incorporated is from doorposts.com the have laminated charts, one is titled "if - then" so if they are telling on each other you take them to the chart show them what G-d says about it, and then show them the consequence (you choose) there is also a blessing chart, and two others. My kids behaviors have improved greatly.
Now that I've seen AK program I just might try that one instead, it is easier then using the dry erase marker and wiping them off each night in the book :)
Hope that helps
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But, back to the topic at hand, I seem to recall reading somewhere about another peg-board system for organizing chores, but I can't remember what it was called. (It might even be the same one!) I have also been wondering how all of the chore-chart systems and such line up with CM habit-training. My autistic son seems to respond well to sticker charts with rewards, but only for very short periods of time. Things like that get old with him really fast, and then we have to figure out something else.
(tickets, privilege pass, date card, good behavior card) and what to use them for - it seems so much can overlap - would this be something that is left up to your own discretion?
Tickets are given after each set of chores are completed, so 3 each day morning, afternoon and evening. Encourage them to use their tickets and they can loose it if they do said thing without turning it in. (like watching tv without asking or giving you the card) If they use the tickets they sill earned it and it counts to their daily total.
The date card is used if they earn all 3 tickets for the day they get a sticker on the special date card. When it is full they earn the date.
The good behavior card is for when you see them doing something really nice that you didn't ask them to do. They don't get anything special for it just your "way to go"! It teaches them that praise from you is the reward for doing "special" things. We don't use this yet, if ever.
I am unsure about the privilege pass. I don't use it. I think it is used when they eliminate the behavior you are trying to get rid of. When they don't do that behavior they get the privilege pass? I am not for sure though as we don't use it yet.
It is best to impliment simple chores first. Like getting dressed, brushing teeth. Things they currently do and then work up form there. It shoudl be a several week prosess into adding in all the elements of the program, or whatever elements you want ot add in. Some things do overlap. That is part of the training of it. You can us it how you with and alter things to work for your family.
I found the program I was thinking about in my earlier post. It's the PEGS board system, and although the description of Accountable Kids reminded me of it, it seems more complicated to me. (I haven't used either system, though.) Looking at both websites, AK appears to be simpler and it looks as though it's more likely to encourage "ownership" on the part of the children.
I'm sorry I was in a hurry..I realize that my spelling was a little crazy. I have never heard of PEGS board system. I really just read a review of AK and we purchased it. We have been using it for a little while now. I know it is still a work in progress. I have heard that other mom say the same thing. Some take a year to get it all going. I guess that is the part of it being habit training though and making it really stick.
I foung the other PEG board system you can look at it here:
It does apear to be much more complicated. I'm thinking I might try the other system with the two little people. I also think my daughter who has high functioning autisim and language problems will be able to follow it without any problems.
Doug - thanks for getting rid of the spam :)
thehauserfamily - thanks for the help, I have read more in the book, and thanks to your explanation I think we have a good idea of how we can handle the different privileges. This weekend we (with the help of our son) wrote down a list of privileges that he would like to work for - then we rated them according to if they were a "ticket" "PP" or "special date" I think I was a little overwhelmed, but I think it isn't as confusing as I originally thought (you know twin brain kicks in and all reasoning goes out the window sometimes!). So far he really likes it and I think it is going to be a great fit for our family. btw, are your twins boys/girls?
Debij - I am also a FlyLady fan, however many times I wish she lived in my house to kick me around and remind me, I get distracted when I am at the computer many times :) I have often thought of doing a control journal for my oldest, but when my friend gifted me her AK stuff, I do think for him it is a better fit for now. I will still look at the other just for comparison sake, maybe there are a few ideas to borrow?? I've heard others mention doorposts before, so I feel I should check it out as well.
I still would love any other input others have of things they have liked/disliked about AK - or other ways they've used it.
Thanks again ladies!! (and Doug!)
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